Wednesday, March 13, 2013< ^ >
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Room Configuration
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[15:46:57] <Tobia Castaldi> hi Paul
[15:47:10] <Tobia Castaldi> give us just a couple of minuts
[15:47:30] <Tobia Castaldi> we are setting upthe mixer
[15:47:36] <Paul Aitken> OK
[15:48:20] <Tobia Castaldi> ok, if you want you can try to launch the java applet
[15:48:37] <Paul Aitken> I already did :-)
[15:48:56] <Tobia Castaldi> can you see the video?
[15:49:16] <Paul Aitken> no, just a grey box. ANd no sound
[15:50:09] <Tobia Castaldi> try to close it and lauch it again in a while
[15:50:44] <Tobia Castaldi> (only the voip window)
[15:51:28] <Paul Aitken> I did. It's still the same
[15:51:35] <Paul Aitken> grey box, no video, no sound
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[15:52:40] <Tobia Castaldi> ok
[15:53:01] <Alessandro Amirante> paul are you on the VPN?
[15:53:02] <Tobia Castaldi> probably a firewall is blocking you
[15:53:22] <Paul Aitken> Good point. Let me drop VPN
[15:53:36] <Alessandro Amirante> ok thanks
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[15:55:46] <Paul Aitken> I'm back.
[15:56:39] <Paul Aitken> Same story: grey box, no video,no sound
[15:57:13] <Alessandro Amirante> :(
[15:57:59] <Alessandro Amirante> should we try the pstn?
[15:58:15] <Alessandro Amirante> I do not remember which solution wi went for last time
[15:59:52] <Paul Aitken> Let me try with Chrome
[16:00:05] <Alessandro Amirante> Oh right...
[16:00:22] <Alessandro Amirante> just give me a minute, I'll enable webRTC
[16:01:05] <Alessandro Amirante> ok, you should log off and log in again
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[16:02:45] <Paul Aitken> Unfortunately my Chrome doesn't have the java plugin
[16:03:04] <Paul Aitken> So, back to firefox
[16:03:10] <Alessandro Amirante> no
[16:03:19] <Alessandro Amirante> you don't need java
[16:03:34] <Alessandro Amirante> we're going to use WebRtc functionality built-in the browser
[16:03:46] <Alessandro Amirante> at least we're going to try...
[16:04:20] <Paul Aitken> I can't even log in to the meetecho page in chrome
[16:04:30] <Paul Aitken> Error 500
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[16:05:20] <Tobia> are you in?
[16:05:23] <Paul Aitken> OK, I'm there.
[16:05:26] <Tobia> ok
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[16:05:41] <Tobia> in the audio video tab
[16:05:54] <Tobia> there is the webrtc option
[16:06:03] <Tobia> (the last in the page)
[16:06:06] <Paul Aitken> I see it
[16:06:23] <Paul Aitken> "Click here to do nothing at all"
[16:06:47] <Tobia> are your MediaStream support ok or ko?
[16:07:03] <Paul> Q for me? I've no idea
[16:07:35] <Tobia> yes... it is just above the button
[16:07:47] <Paul> Oh, yes, both OK.
[16:08:29] <Tobia> you can not see "Click here to start the call from your computer"?
[16:08:45] <Paul> Yes
[16:08:51] <Tobia> click it
[16:08:54] <Paul> Yes
[16:08:56] <Paul> done
[16:09:00] <Paul> many times
[16:09:29] <Tobia> can you hear us?
[16:09:35] <Paul> DOing the same in firefox, I get this message: "Firefox Nightly only negotiates DTLS-SRTP at the moment, while we only support (shame on us!) SDES-SRTP... working on it, sorry!"
[16:09:50] <Paul> In chrome, it does nothing.
[16:09:59] <Paul> ANd no, I don't hear anything either
[16:10:17] <Tobia> ok... I think the best option is the PSTN
[16:10:40] <Tobia> +39-06-9171-2251
[16:11:20] <Paul> I went back to the Java app in Chrome. Same story: grey box, no audio or video
[16:12:10] <Tobia> yes, i think it is a firewall problem
[16:12:58] <Tobia> we have one last option...
[16:13:03] <Tobia> try to close the applet
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[16:13:34] <Paul> Closed
[16:13:40] <Tobia> and unselect the "enable video" check box
[16:14:08] <Tobia> then try to launch the voip again
[16:14:39] <Paul> done
[16:14:42] <Paul> do you hear me/
[16:14:45] <Paul> I don't hear you
[16:15:39] <Alessandro Amirante> mmm i guess your packet are bing dropped by some firewall or similar
[16:15:50] <Paul> No VPN
[16:16:23] <Alessandro Amirante> did you use the java applet last time?
[16:16:33] <Alessandro Amirante> from the same network as you are right now?
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[16:18:31] <Paul> Yes, the same network (ISP)
[16:18:47] <Paul> I'm not sure whether I used the app or the phone
[16:18:59] <Paul> I think the phone, because the app had too much latency
[16:19:43] <Alessandro Amirante> I think we might go that way... can you call either an italian or us phone number?
[16:20:48] <Alessandro Amirante> +39-06-9171-2251
[16:20:58] <Alessandro Amirante> +1-347-964-0130
[16:21:57] <Paul> Trying
[16:22:42] <Tobia> once you are in digit *51 to enable you mic
[16:23:23] <Paul> I hear you
[16:23:35] <Paul> Can't do that
[16:23:45] <Paul> I used webex to call you
[16:24:38] <Paul> Can you hear me now?
[16:24:56] <Paul> Let me try a softphone.
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[16:27:09] <Alessandro Amirante> we can also provide you with a UK number to call
[16:27:20] <Alessandro Amirante> (if you are in OK)
[16:27:22] <Alessandro Amirante> UK
[16:27:51] <Paul> Yeah, a UK number would be easier.
[16:28:13] <Paul> However, 2 hours of long-distance call = expensive for me.
[16:28:30] <Paul> softphone finally starting
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[16:28:54] <Tobia Castaldi> this is the number to call  00441223790521
[16:28:54] <Alessandro Amirante> you can just use the passive mode when you have to just listen, and then make a phone call when you have to present
[16:29:22] <Alessandro Amirante> you can passively listen/see the room through flash or rtsp
[16:29:35] <Alessandro Amirante> it's the pop corn-labeled tab in Meetecho...
[16:30:16] <Alessandro Amirante> btw, this number will be available also tomorrow: 00441223790521
[16:32:08] <Paul> Hallo?
[16:32:12] <Paul> I dialled in
[16:32:49] <Paul> Do you hear me?
[16:32:53] <Paul> Yes I hear you
[16:32:56] <Paul> Do you hear me?
[16:33:02] <Tobia Castaldi> try to say something
[16:33:12] <Paul> I talking but you don't hear me
[16:33:17] <Paul> I'm unmuted
[16:33:21] <Tobia Castaldi> no :(
[16:33:38] <Paul> you hear that?
[16:34:00] <Tobia Castaldi> yes
[16:34:21] <Paul> Yes, no, maybe?
[16:34:41] <Tobia Castaldi> we hear only noise :)
[16:34:52] <Paul> You hear the beeps, but you don't hear me?
[16:35:07] <Tobia Castaldi> exactly
[16:36:19] <Paul> I dialled again
[16:36:27] <Paul> *51, unmuted
[16:36:46] <Alessandro Amirante> are you useing a softphone? may be an issue with your microphone?
[16:36:54] <Paul> no, I tested it.
[16:36:57] <Paul> I can hear myself
[16:37:38] <Alessandro Amirante> is it selected as the device to be used in the softphone settings?
[16:37:44] <Paul> Yes! :-)
[16:37:52] <Paul> Let me drop and test a local call to self.
[16:38:13] <Alessandro Amirante> sorry if I ask silly questions... just can't figure out why this is not working! :)
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[16:43:09] <Paul3> Hi again
[16:43:17] <Tobia Castaldi> hi :)
[16:43:49] <Paul3> I seem to have one-way audio even for a local call to my cell-phone.
[16:43:58] <Paul3> SO, trying something else.
[16:44:06] <Tobia Castaldi> ok
[16:45:53] <Paul3> Give me the UK pstn # again?
[16:45:59] <Alessandro Amirante> 00441223790521
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