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[18:55:14] <Simon Romano> Hi Paul...can you hear us?
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[18:58:03] <Simon Romano> hELLO THERE...
[18:58:29] <Simon Romano> Did you unmute yourself?
[18:58:41] <Simon Romano> Just click on the button to get unmuted...
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[19:00:58] <Alessandro Amirante> Paul do you read us?
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[19:03:10] <Paul Aitken> Hi.
[19:03:16] <Simon Romano> Hi!!
[19:03:20] <Simon Romano> Eventually...
[19:03:31] <Simon Romano> Can you hear us?
[19:03:32] <Paul Aitken> I can hear something too.
[19:03:49] <Simon Romano> Did you launch the applet foe Audio and Video?
[19:04:12] <Paul Aitken> Yes
[19:04:16] <Paul Aitken> Can you hear me?
[19:04:31] <Simon Romano> You should go to the Audio/Video tab and click on the headset icon
[19:04:35] <Paul Aitken> I started the integrated VoIP
[19:04:46] <Paul Aitken> What should I use?
[19:05:03] <Simon Romano> Integrated VoIP! But we don't see you in throgu that
[19:05:27] <Simon Romano> Do you see us in the floating window?
[19:05:30] <Paul Aitken> no no button
[19:05:41] <Simon Romano> So let's do like this...
[19:05:55] <Simon Romano> Just close the current audio floating window.
[19:06:04] <Simon Romano> then go to the headset icon
[19:06:26] <Simon Romano> ..and start the applet by clicking on the related button
[19:06:49] <Simon Romano> A Floating window should appear (and a couple of popups asking for permissions)
[19:07:09] <Simon Romano> In such window you will see a I want to talk button
[19:07:11] <Paul Aitken> Right
[19:07:17] <Simon Romano> Just click on it
[19:07:20] <Paul Aitken> I see that.
[19:07:21] <Simon Romano> And start talking
[19:07:38] <Simon Romano> Did you click on it?
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[19:09:46] <Simon Romano> OK, let's try the phone option
[19:09:50] <Paul Aitken> Hi again.
[19:09:59] <Paul Aitken> Connection was lost, had to restart
[19:10:19] <Simon Romano> Just give us a call at one of the numbers you find in the ohone window...
[19:10:32] <Simon Romano> You must be somehow filtered out when you make the VoIP call
[19:10:43] <Simon Romano> And you get kicked out from the system
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[19:11:32] <Simon Romano> Try one of these numbers: tel:+39-081-009-3919
[19:11:40] <Paul Aitken> connection was lost, again.
[19:11:52] <Simon Romano> tel:+39-081-009-3919
[19:12:16] <Simon Romano> We'll try the phone option...I think you get filtered out when you do VoIP through the applet.
[19:12:34] <Simon Romano> tel:+1-323-927-1005
[19:12:50] <Simon Romano> There are two options for the landline call
[19:14:10] <Simon Romano> Are you still there?
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[19:15:33] <Paul Aitken> Hi, again
[19:15:37] <Simon Romano> We can provide you with a British number, if you prefer...
[19:15:38] <Paul Aitken> connection was lost, again
[19:15:47] <Paul Aitken> had to restart
[19:15:53] <Paul Aitken> sucks :-(
[19:16:00] <Simon Romano> :-)
[19:16:11] <Simon Romano> Let's just try the phone line by now.
[19:16:23] <Paul Aitken> I tried calling, but just got some beeps
[19:16:25] <Simon Romano> We can then see what is happening with the VoIP applet.
[19:16:38] <Simon Romano> Which number did you use?
[19:17:08] <Paul Aitken> whatever you typed before.
[19:17:15] <Paul Aitken> I lost the history when disconnected
[19:17:21] <Simon Romano> Right...
[19:17:40] <Simon Romano> You find the numbers in the phone tab (phone icon in the Audio/Video tab)
[19:18:41] <Paul Aitken> I'm calling that number
[19:19:05] <Paul Aitken> after ringing out, I get a series of three high tones, then three low tones, repeating over and over
[19:19:55] <Paul Aitken> OK, I'm in
[19:19:58] <Paul Aitken> I hear something.
[19:19:58] <Simon Romano> OK!
[19:20:04] <Simon Romano> Just digit *51
[19:20:28] <Paul Aitken> Great!
[19:21:58] <Paul Aitken> I hear nothing now.
[19:25:49] <Paul Aitken> Slide 6: Open Issue: proposal 1
[19:25:51] <Paul Aitken> Slide 2: Introduction
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[19:28:40] <Paul Aitken> Slide 1: 510x-bis
[19:28:55] <Paul Aitken> Slide 2: 5101bis status
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[20:03:28] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 1: Note Well
[20:06:13] <paul.aitken> Is Nevil talking into the mic?
[20:06:18] <paul.aitken> The remote sound is awful :-(
[20:07:01] <Andrew Feren> He sounds like he is underwater
[20:07:06] <Alessandro Amirante> I see, probably a matter of microphone
[20:07:34] <paul.aitken> Anyone in the room who can check?
[20:08:04] <Alessandro Amirante> doing it
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[20:09:56] <Tobia Castaldi> we are trying to enanche the audio quality...
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[20:10:22] <paul.aitken> no audio now.
[20:10:28] <Tobia Castaldi> the audio feed should be upin a while
[20:10:37] <Tobia Castaldi> just wait a sec
[20:10:44] <paul.aitken> back now.
[20:10:50] <Alessandro Amirante> is audio better now?
[20:10:50] <Tobia Castaldi> is it better now?
[20:10:56] <Alessandro Amirante> it should be...
[20:11:13] <paul.aitken> somewhat better, thanks
[20:11:33] <Andrew Feren> at least understandable now
[20:11:48] <Tobia Castaldi> paul unmute yourself
[20:11:57] <paul.aitken> not muted
[20:12:04] <Tobia Castaldi> try to talk
[20:12:18] <Alessandro Amirante> paul digit * 5 1
[20:12:38] <benoit.claise> yes, we can hear you.
[20:13:36] <Paul Aitken> Slide 1: Information Elements for Data Link Layer Traffic Measurement
[20:13:40] <Paul Aitken> Slide 2: Introduction
[20:14:14] <benoit.claise> yes
[20:14:15] <Andrew Feren> yes
[20:14:18] <Andrew Feren> better too
[20:14:20] <Paul Aitken> Slide 3: Changes in -00
[20:15:18] <Paul Aitken> Slide 4: Plan
[20:15:53] <Paul Aitken> Slide 5: Open Issue
[20:16:51] <Aamer Akhter> is there a share of the slides ?
[20:17:06] <Andrew Feren> http://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/84/materials.html
[20:17:13] <benoit.claise> not sure, but the slides are at http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/slides/slides-84-ipfix-2.pdf
[20:17:17] <Paul Aitken> Slide 6: Open Issue: proposal 1
[20:17:24] <Aamer Akhter> Thanks Andrew: so just offline
[20:17:25] <Tobia Castaldi> or www.meetecho.com/ietf84/ipfix
[20:17:41] <Tobia Castaldi> for a realtime view of the current slide
[20:17:52] <Tobia Castaldi> If yuo already logged into the IETF jabber room, please use a different nickname when also joining Meetecho.
[20:18:09] <Paul Aitken> Slide 5: Open Issue
[20:18:35] <Andrew Feren> Aamer I just noticed the tabs on top of the weblite client
[20:18:50] <Andrew Feren> you can select "slides" too
[20:20:00] <Aamer Akhter> thanks!, i see it in 'share slides' nice.
[20:20:34] <paul.aitken> Who is at the mic?
[20:20:50] <benoit.claise> Chris Ignacio
[20:20:50] <Andrew Feren> chris ignacio (sp?)
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[20:24:19] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 2: Overview
[20:25:00] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 1: IE-DOCTORS
[20:25:18] <Tobia Castaldi> Current presenter: Brian Trammell
[20:25:19] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 1: IE-DOCTORS
[20:25:22] <Andrew Feren> yes
[20:25:31] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 2: Status
[20:26:18] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 3: Open issue: ESIE Reference in Registry
[20:27:56] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 4: Open issue: ESIE Reference in Registry
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[20:32:56] <Andrew Feren> benoit. We get the iana reg from time to time, but not all customers update regularly.
[20:33:08] <Andrew Feren> not sure if that is good or bad.
[20:35:03] <paul.aitken> the audio is breaking up a lot now.
[20:35:13] <paul.aitken> badly jittered
[20:35:24] <Tobia Castaldi> better now?
[20:35:27] <paul.aitken> no
[20:35:33] <Andrew Feren> good here
[20:35:57] <paul.aitken> (i'm dialled-in to the phone audio.)
[20:36:18] <Tobia Castaldi> probably is a problem from your side...
[20:36:33] <Tobia Castaldi> try to dial in again
[20:37:01] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 5: Open issue: Deprecation
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[20:38:03] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 6: Open issue: Deprecation
[20:40:14] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 7: Open issue: Next Steps
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[20:42:13] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 1: 510x-bis
[20:42:21] <Tobia Castaldi> Current presenter: Brian Trammell
[20:42:22] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 1: 510x-bis
[20:42:23] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 2: 5101bis status
[20:51:34] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 4: Next steps
[20:51:46] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 3: 5102bis status
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[20:55:10] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 4: Next steps
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[20:57:35] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 1: Operation of the IPFIX Protocol on IPFIX Mediators
[20:57:40] <Tobia Castaldi> Current presenter: Brian Trammell
[20:57:41] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 1: Operation of the IPFIX Protocol on IPFIX Mediators
[20:57:43] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 2: Status
[20:58:46] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 3: Contents
[20:59:20] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 4: Contents
[20:59:23] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 5: Next steps
[21:00:26] <Tobia Castaldi> Presentation stopped
[21:00:53] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 1: Reporting Unobserved Fields in IPFIX
[21:01:23] <Paul Aitken> Slide 1: Reporting Unobserved Fields in IPFIX
[21:01:24] <Paul Aitken> Slide 2: Changes from -00 to -01
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[21:02:51] <Paul Aitken> Slide 3: Plan
[21:03:03] Christopher Inacio has set the subject to: IETF-84
[21:03:11] <Paul Aitken> Slide 4: TODO
[21:03:29] <Andrew Feren> read it
[21:03:29] <Aamer Akhter> I have read the draft
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[21:04:44] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 1: draft-akhter-opsawg-perfmon-ipfix-03
[21:05:05] <Tobia Castaldi> Current presenter: Hendrik Sholz
[21:05:06] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 1: draft-akhter-opsawg-perfmon-ipfix-03
[21:05:24] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 2: Draft contents
[21:05:28] <Tobia Castaldi> Current presenter: Hendrik Sholz
[21:05:29] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 2: Draft contents
[21:05:50] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 3: Changes
[21:07:26] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 4: More Changes
[21:07:51] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 5: Open Items
[21:09:50] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 1: draft-akhter-opsawg-perfmon-ipfix-03
[21:09:54] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 2: Draft contents
[21:09:59] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 3: Changes
[21:10:19] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 4: More Changes
[21:10:39] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 5: Open Items
[21:12:06] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 6: Next Steps
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[21:24:13] <paul.aitken> Is that Chris at the mic?
[21:25:09] <Tobia Castaldi> yes
[21:26:19] <Tobia Castaldi> sorry... this slide deck is not available
[21:27:55] <paul.aitken> Can it be added to the meeting materials page later?
[21:29:30] <Tobia Castaldi> I think so
[21:29:33] <Aamer Akhter> At a high level, I like this idea.
[21:30:07] <Aamer Akhter> my worry is if all IEs can be described in a programatic way
[21:30:28] <Aamer Akhter> not everything is a copy of a field seen in a packet, or a simple packet/byte counter
[21:30:44] <Andrew Feren> Aamer, I agree.
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[21:33:54] <benoit.claise> aamer, you speak about Chris' idea?
[21:34:02] <benoit.claise> do you want to tell it at the mic?
[21:34:06] <Aamer Akhter> @benoit: yes
[21:34:14] <benoit.claise> note: I was disconnected for 2 minutes.
[21:34:25] <Aamer Akhter> somebody can speak for me in the room.
[21:36:23] <Christopher Inacio> Sorry, I wrote the slides today.
[21:36:40] <Christopher Inacio> I can send them to anyone who is interested, but I assume that Neville will upload them soon
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[21:37:25] <paul.aitken> Chris, please send them to Nevil and ask him to add them to the meeting materials page.
[21:37:34] <Christopher Inacio> I have given them to him
[21:37:40] <Christopher Inacio> but very recently
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[21:44:03] <Christopher Inacio> go ahead
[21:44:05] <Aamer Akhter> early allocation draft is what?
[21:44:20] <benoit.claise> an updated to RFC 4022
[21:44:26] <Aamer Akhter> thx
[21:44:26] <benoit.claise> an update to RFC4022
[21:44:39] <benoit.claise> let me try again ;-) an update to RFC4020
[21:45:12] <benoit.claise> the draft is not there, but Barry Leiba is working on it, and this was discussed during the WG training lunch.
[21:45:15] <Aamer Akhter> that makes more sense
[21:45:30] <Aamer Akhter> :-)
[21:45:54] <benoit.claise> this one is posted: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-leiba-cotton-iana-5226bis/
[21:45:58] <Tobia Castaldi> :D
[21:46:07] <Tobia Castaldi> bye paul
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[21:46:26] <paul.aitken> Thanks everyone. Goodnight!
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[21:46:38] <Tobia Castaldi> Thank you
[21:46:43] <Aamer Akhter> thanks. got it
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[22:29:55] <Christopher Inacio> /help
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