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[07:22:49] <Brian Trammell> hi Juergen and Paul
[07:23:41] <paul.aitken> Hi Brian
[07:23:59] <paul.aitken> No audio?
[07:24:21] <Brian Trammell> hear that?
[07:24:31] <Brian Trammell> (meeting hasn't started yet)
[07:24:36] <Brian Trammell> (we're waiting for people to show up)
[07:24:46] <paul.aitken> I heard something
[07:25:03] <Brian Trammell> meeting starting now
[07:25:04] <paul.aitken> Not very clearly though.
[07:25:07] <Juergen Quittek> I have audio
[07:25:08] <paul.aitken> Thanks
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[07:31:01] <Juergen Quittek> In the PSAMP MIB is complete except for the IANA considerations that depends on a revision of RFC 5815 (IPFIX MIB)
[07:31:30] <Juergen Quittek> The only change in RFC 5815 bis is the IANA registration of packet selection methods
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[07:40:00] <Brian Trammell> (Benoit's slides bluescreened)
[07:40:09] <paul.aitken> bluescreened?!
[07:40:30] <paul.aitken> :-)
[07:43:06] <Chris Inacio> there's some sort of grim satisfaction in it from the Mac users. ;)
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[07:47:57] <paul.aitken> I was about to ask the same question as Benoit: can we change the IANA status from "current" to something else?
[07:48:09] <paul.aitken> No, not a wiki
[07:48:21] <paul.aitken> we need a single source for IE information = IANA
[07:49:34] <paul.aitken> Thanks
[07:50:07] <paul.aitken> Let's think about that.
[08:02:09] <paul.aitken> What is the meeting attendance like?
[08:02:18] <Chris Inacio> thin.
[08:02:35] <Chris Inacio> 16, including Nevile.
[08:02:51] <paul.aitken> Sorry to hear that.
[08:03:03] <paul.aitken> I guess most IPFIX people are in Europe and USA
[08:03:55] <Chris Inacio> I think so, and apparently attendance is down a bit too.
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[08:10:18] <Chris Inacio> slide 10
[08:12:19] <paul.aitken> Thanks - but the slides don't work.
[08:12:38] <Chris Inacio> :) they didn't here either.
[08:12:47] <paul.aitken> I heard that :-)
[08:13:48] <acferen> What are we on? I had audio trouble and just connected.
[08:13:57] <paul.aitken> (Hallo Andrew!)
[08:14:05] <acferen> hi paul.
[08:14:08] <Chris Inacio> 5101bis, but the slides are broken
[08:14:29] <Chris Inacio> Paul, do you do template withdrawl / have plans too?
[08:15:11] <acferen> Chris I have seen no requests for withdrawl
[08:15:45] <Chris Inacio> Mine doesn't do withdrawl either; have to find somebody who does withdrawl in order to advance 5101bis?
[08:15:59] <paul.aitken> I have a group which may be doing this, since they're defining templates on the fly.
[08:16:04] <Chris Inacio> Wonder about the Czech's or Munich.
[08:16:07] <paul.aitken> I need to check back with them.
[08:26:37] <acferen> I already refer to IANA by default.
[08:26:39] <paul.aitken> +1
[08:27:41] <acferen> Paul also out of date docs cause problems like the confusion about "post" that I was asking about the other day...
[08:29:38] <paul.aitken> Andrew, what do you recommend/
[08:30:56] <acferen> Well point to IANA for starters? Beyond that not sure what can be done about what is already out there
[08:34:36] <acferen> Are *all* the slides broken or just the first set?
[08:35:40] <Chris Inacio> just anything from Benoit.
[08:35:54] <acferen> thanks.
[08:36:41] <Chris Inacio> np.
[08:37:50] <paul.aitken> It's a pity we don't have video sharing, so we can see exactly what the WG can see.
[08:38:02] <acferen> +1
[08:38:20] <acferen> or slides that work.... :-)
[08:38:29] <Chris Inacio> agreed, need WG chairs to request it; worked well in two other meetings this time
[08:39:20] <Chris Inacio> added to the notes:
* REMOTE participants DEMAND Meetecho/Webex for meeting *
[08:39:27] <jochen.koegel> a pdf checker in the ietf tools?
[08:39:32] <paul.aitken> Unfortunately the blue sheets don't capture the number of remote attendees.
[08:39:35] <paul.aitken> +1
[08:39:50] <Chris Inacio> pdf checker for Benoit… :)
[08:46:37] <paul.aitken> Benoit's PDFs are truncated, both in a binary stream section. It's trivial to see that there are unbalanced tags and no EOF.
[08:48:13] <Chris Inacio> Sounds like people should *never* be allowed to use powerpoint's PDF export.
[08:48:37] <paul.aitken> people should *never* be allowed to use powerpoint
[08:48:43] <Chris Inacio> :)
[08:48:45] <acferen> +1
[08:53:49] <Chris Inacio> slides: 5815bis
[08:53:51] <Chris Inacio> slide 4
[08:54:04] <Chris Inacio> (not by Benoit, should be readable)
[08:54:17] <acferen> working slides. Wheeeee!
[08:54:23] <Chris Inacio> slide 5
[08:55:13] <Chris Inacio> next presenation
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[08:57:41] <Chris Inacio> Applying 6313
[08:57:44] <Chris Inacio> slide 2
[08:58:01] <Chris Inacio> slide 3
[08:58:31] <Chris Inacio> slide 4
[08:58:55] <acferen> 4 and 5 blank
[08:59:11] <jochen.koegel> 4 and 5 work for me
[08:59:13] <Chris Inacio> (that sucks, because that's where the meat is)
[09:00:03] <Chris Inacio> slide 6
[09:01:26] <Chris Inacio> slide 8
[09:01:34] <Chris Inacio> (sorry about 7)
[09:01:56] <acferen> +1 to Brian's issues.
[09:01:59] <Chris Inacio> slide 9
[09:02:29] <Chris Inacio> prepping for IPFIX v2
[09:02:48] <Chris Inacio> slide 10
[09:09:20] <Chris Inacio> EOP
[09:09:31] <Chris Inacio> another Benoit set. :(
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[09:10:13] <jochen.koegel> but this one works
[09:10:25] <jochen.koegel> (?)
[09:10:29] <Chris Inacio> :o
[09:10:35] <Chris Inacio> slide 2
[09:11:14] <acferen> which presentation?
[09:11:32] <Chris Inacio> Export of application information in IPFIX
[09:11:34] <Chris Inacio> slide 3
[09:12:02] <jochen.koegel> I was wrong. looking at cisco IEs.
[09:12:19] <Chris Inacio> slide 4
[09:13:07] <jochen.koegel> I can't find these slides in the datatracker? did anybody find them?
[09:13:13] <acferen> Not me
[09:13:39] <jochen.koegel> ok, would be most likely broken anyway :-)
[09:14:04] <acferen> :-)
[09:19:52] <acferen> FWIW I have already seen one non cisco vendor implement this scheme
[09:21:36] <Brian Trammell> no, all of Benoit's PDFs were broken...
[09:22:01] <Brian Trammell> i'm generating new PDFs now and will give them to Nevil to upload shortly
[09:22:15] <acferen> thanks Brian.
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[09:24:56] <paul.aitken> Thanks all.
[09:25:20] <acferen> who is talking?
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