[06:29:01] SwedeMike joins the room [06:53:15] Matt Zekauskas joins the room [06:53:21] jlcJohn joins the room [06:56:49] if someone is in Congress I, and could give me updates as to where we are in the schedule, I'd appreciate it [07:04:20] Murari presentation starts [07:04:28] Simon Leinen joins the room [07:04:53] Andrew McGregor joins the room [07:05:02] Roy joins the room [07:05:17] Chair asked for jabber scribe [07:06:07] No slides that I can find [07:07:50] gorryf joins the room [07:08:02] Hi Gorry Fairhurst is in the iccrg meeting and scribing for jabber. [07:08:14] Thx [07:08:26] Alexander Zimmermann joins the room [07:08:35] Murari Sridharan: DCTCP (15 mins) [07:09:56] malc joins the room [07:11:18] Aha! slides showed up [07:12:38] Gorry, are you sure he's talking DCTCP -- slides don't seem to match [07:13:05] Ge said he'd motivate why we should talk about data centres [07:14:40] Seawall - Congestion controlled tunnels [07:15:34] Sounds interesting -- anything like a URL to check? [07:17:52] https://www.usenix.org/events/hotcloud10/tech/full_papers/Shieh.pdf [07:17:58] http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/srikanth/temp/seawall_draft.pdf [07:18:15] (Neither is the slide set showing now, but it's the same work) [07:18:43] rvdp joins the room [07:22:19] Daid Dyson at mic [07:23:01] Bob Briscoe at mic [07:23:33] Chris at mic [07:24:26] David Dyson at mic [07:25:18] Lars Eggert at mic [07:26:55] ... IETF may have concerns on applicability - the IRTF is now looking at other improttant topics : There may be a case for IRTF lookig at data centres. [07:27:04] Aaton Falk at mic [07:30:30] Linyi Tian joins the room [07:31:09] Lars joins the room [07:31:13] Lars leaves the room [07:31:39] Lars joins the room [07:33:19] The next talk will be about DCTCP [07:34:29] I think he's on slide 2 [07:34:50] which slide set? [07:34:51] SLide 3 [07:35:51] I can't find any slide set, http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/agenda/iccrg.txt doesn't contain any links to slides [07:36:10] DCTCP slide-set recently posted to Materials page [07:36:30] Some, but not all, slide sets are on https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/80/materials.html#wg-iccrg [07:36:55] Yup, that one [07:37:49] (We need slide numbers from the jabber scribe) [07:38:32] (maybe slide 8) [07:38:39] yes, this is slide 8 [07:40:23] now on slide #9 [07:41:13] #17 (!) [07:42:00] all of these slides are #17 :-) [07:42:26] right, the slide #s are of limited use [07:42:28] #18 now [07:42:59] rvdp leaves the room [07:44:08] #19 [07:45:12] Lars eggert at mic [07:45:32] Roy leaves the room [07:46:01] slide "Rate-based Feedback" (#20?) [07:46:48] (there is a slide numbered 20 coming) [07:47:16] #20 now [07:47:27] (the slide numbers on the slides don't match page numbers in the PDF) [07:47:49] *ouch* [07:47:57] slide is called "Why it Works" [07:48:11] "Analysis" (#22 on projector) [07:48:20] rvdp joins the room [07:49:00] "Evaluation" (#24 on projector) [07:49:28] "Baseline" (#25) [07:50:11] "Latency - Queuing Delay" (#27) [07:50:32] "AQM is not enough" (#28) [07:51:05] "Buffer Pressure" (#29) [07:51:49] "Incast (many-to-one)" #30 [07:52:42] "Scaled Background & Query" (#26) [07:53:32] "Conclusions" (#27 and last) [07:54:47] David Dysin [07:55:38] Randy Stewart [07:56:37] Cheung [07:57:35] ^Yuchung Cheng^ [07:58:11] Nandita [07:58:57] Jim gettys [07:59:31] tim Shepherd [08:00:24] Andrew McGregor leaves the room [08:00:35] Andrew McGregor joins the room [08:01:27] Andrew McGregor [08:01:47] Igor Gashinky [08:02:22] ? [08:02:47] bob briscoe [08:04:33] Igor Gashinky [08:05:53] ? [08:06:47] a little bit closer to mic [08:06:59] Ilpo Jarvinen [08:09:30] Lars Eggert (as IRTF chair) - you need to disclose IPR...) [08:10:46] Mirja Kuehlewind: Chirping for Congestion Control (20 mins) [08:10:47] Now on: Mirja Kühlewind, "Chirping for Congestion Control" [08:10:57] http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/slides/iccrg-0.pdf [08:11:11] #2 [08:11:26] ah... [08:11:33] a little bit louder [08:11:35] #3 [08:12:01] mirija... [08:12:58] #4 [08:14:09] #5 [08:14:50] #6 [08:17:11] #7 [08:18:10] #8 [08:18:35] #9 [08:20:10] #10 [08:21:54] #11 [08:23:44] #12 [08:24:58] #13 [08:30:52] rvdp leaves the room [08:37:54] next: Bob Briscoe et al: Capacity Sharing Architecture Design Team update (20 mins) [08:39:04] p.ohanlon joins the room [08:39:28] p.ohanlon leaves the room [08:45:19] Simon Leinen leaves the room [08:45:43] simon.leinen joins the room [08:46:31] Gorry Fairhurst: A TCP Modification for Variable-Rate Traffic (15 mins) [08:46:34] gorryf leaves the room [08:47:00] rvdp joins the room [08:48:08] http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/slides/iccrg-2.pdf [08:58:32] with cwnd = max(2*w_used, IW) it is not possible that the cwnd is greater than before? [09:03:17] 2 [09:15:42] simon.leinen leaves the room [09:17:41] simon.leinen joins the room [09:17:49] gorryf joins the room [09:17:53] Michael Scharf: Performance and Fairness Evaluation of IW10 and other Fast Startup Schemes (20 mins) [09:17:55] Next up: Michael Scharf [09:17:57] http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/slides/iccrg-1.pdf [09:18:02] #2 [09:20:02] #3 [09:20:28] #4 [09:21:11] (muttering to myself: Where is Kathleen Nichols when you need her?) [09:21:39] #5 [09:22:59] #6 [09:23:44] #7 [09:24:51] #8 [09:25:25] #9 [09:25:54] And what are now the quintessence? Should we discuss IW10 for the next couple of years? [09:26:19] #10 [09:27:32] Andrew McGregor leaves the room [09:27:53] rvdp leaves the room [09:28:58] Meeting closed. 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