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[12:06:32] <jlcjohn> Should mediasite be doing something?
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[12:40:22] <falk@jabber.isi.edu> is anybody on the webcast?
[12:40:56] <jlcjohn> not successfully, anyway...
[12:41:17] <falk@jabber.isi.edu> what OS are you using?
[12:41:42] <jlcjohn> Mac OSX 10.4
[12:41:53] <falk@jabber.isi.edu> have you tried using IE?
[12:41:54] <jlcjohn> Safari browser
[12:42:14] <falk@jabber.isi.edu> I've just tested it with IE on OSX 10.4 and it seems to work.
[12:42:26] <falk@jabber.isi.edu> I couldn't get it to work with Firefox or Safari
[12:44:56] <jlcjohn> IE 5.2 actually works...
[12:46:05] <jlcjohn> Do I gather the slide function of mediasite isn't being used?
[12:46:24] <falk@jabber.isi.edu> seems to have been a hiccup in getting Keshav's slides to work
[12:46:34] <jlcjohn> there it is!
[12:46:43] <falk@jabber.isi.edu> It worked for Michael. I'm checking on it.
[12:48:55] <falk@jabber.isi.edu> appears to be operator error. should be fixed in the 11am presentation. does the audio work for you?
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[12:49:54] <jlcjohn> audio is usable -- I have to ride the volume control knob...
[12:50:14] <falk@jabber.isi.edu> we have a microphone next to a speakerphone...
[12:50:56] <jlcjohn> IE 5.2 crashed (surprise...)
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[13:22:51] <falk@jabber.isi.edu> We added a new session to make up for the 1st one which terminated early: http://webcasterms.isi.edu/mediasite/viewer/?peid=236bf937-428d-4a51-986e-18bb8c57be74
[13:23:01] <falk@jabber.isi.edu> This is good from now until 10:50am PDT today.
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[14:20:25] <jlcjohn> slides?
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[15:07:10] <falk@jabber.isi.edu> ping?
[15:07:27] <ecoe> pong
[15:36:33] <michael_welzl> peng :)
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[17:19:48] <weddy> the audio feed sounds good, by the way
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[17:22:43] <falk@jabber.isi.edu> hi wes
[17:22:55] <weddy> hi
[17:30:15] <michael_welzl> hi wes!
[17:30:39] <michael_welzl> good thing that you see lars' talk
[17:31:47] <weddy> the viewer seems to be pretty nice ... as long as you don't run linux :)
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[17:39:14] <michael_welzl> whether "experimental" could be used or not, what's wrong with using "informational" for documents which describe a past experiment?
[17:40:23] <falk@jabber.isi.edu> there are many informal standards which are published as informational RFCs. Van Jacobsen congestion control for example was informational for a long time. calling it experimental seems like a bigger caveat.
[17:40:24] <weddy> RFC 2416 is an example of an experimental result discussed in an informational rfc
[17:44:07] <michael_welzl> i would say that 2416 is just fine for what the document describes, but vj cc in an informational rfc might have been the wrong choice. what rfc are you talking about, btw?
[17:46:44] <falk@jabber.isi.edu> I just did a quick search. I believe I am mistaken about VJCC.
[17:47:45] <michael_welzl> phew!!! for a second, i was afraid that you're going to tell me about a key RFC which i overlooked and hence didn't mention in my book :)
[17:48:31] <michael_welzl> i tried *so* hard not to miss any cc related rfc... that made it easy to collect some of the stuff for the new draft
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[19:39:29] <lars.eggert@googlemail.com> draft-schuetz-tcpm-tcp-rlci
[19:39:39] <lars.eggert@googlemail.com> this is the draft i just mentioned
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[20:28:26] <magnus> The requirements for SIP overload solutions are in: draft-rosenberg-sipping-overload-reqs
[20:28:59] <magnus> Now a WG item: draft-ietf-sipping-overload-reqs
[20:29:13] <magnus> A solution proposal: draft-hilt-sipping-overload
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