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Friday, November 17, 2017< ^ >
mcmanus has set the subject to: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/materials/agenda-100-httpbis/ and slides https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/session/httpbis
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[01:26:50] <Lucas Pardue> is the audio working for anyone else on meetecho?
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[01:27:48] <Lucas Pardue> ah nvm I can hear Mark
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[01:29:07] <Julian Reschke> no audio over here yet
[01:29:20] <Julian Reschke> now
[01:29:22] <Julian Reschke> it works
[01:29:28] <craigt> i have audio, but very quiet
[01:29:35] <Martin Thomson> turn the volume up craig
[01:29:41] <Lucas Pardue> :)
[01:30:07] <craigt> Thanks Martin Thomson!
[01:30:09] <Julian Reschke> yes,  it is very quiet
[01:30:39] <Martin Thomson> meetecho: can you look at increasing the volume for remote participants, thanks
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[01:32:14] <Meetecho> Martin Thomson: better now?
[01:32:23] <Martin Thomson> folks?
[01:32:45] <Lucas Pardue> marginal differnce to me
[01:32:46] <craigt> Marjinally; usable now
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[01:32:59] <Julian Reschke> not really, have to almost go to the max setting on my notebook
[01:33:01] <Martin Thomson> meetecho: a little more please
[01:33:10] <Martin Thomson> maybe 12dB
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[01:33:46] <craigt> feels like the end of your week Martin :)
[01:34:03] <Martin Thomson> craigt: it feels like that from Tuesday
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[01:34:55] <Mark Andrews> speakers need to eat the mic
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[01:35:20] <Mark Andrews> that includes the chairs
[01:35:21] <Barbara Stark> Can you hear Martin?
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[01:35:31] <Julian Reschke> better than Mark
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[01:37:00] <Mark Andrews> volume is to soft for laptop speakers.  volume full up with earbuds reasonable to floor mic.
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[01:37:14] <Meetecho> looking into this
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[01:37:53] <Barbara Stark> Eric Rescorla at mic, then Martin and Tommy Pauly
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[01:41:33] <Barbara Stark> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/materials/slides-100-httpbis-sessa-http-live-range/
[01:47:45] <Martin Thomson> Craig Pratt: is the via header field in the squid example incorrect?
[01:48:35] <Lucas Pardue> looks like copy paste erro from previous example
[01:48:46] <Barbara Stark> Martin Thomson at mic
[01:49:35] <Meetecho> remote people: is audio from the room better now?
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[01:50:12] <Yoav Weiss> better for me
[01:50:36] <Julian Reschke> yes
[01:51:10] <Barbara Stark> Darshak Thakore at mic
[01:52:04] <Barbara Stark> Martin Thomson at mic
[01:53:44] <Yoav Weiss> where are the minutes taking place? the meetecho doc seems to be from Monday
[01:53:53] <Barbara Stark> Ted Hardie at mic
[01:55:55] <blassey> http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/ietf100httpbis
[01:56:11] <Barbara Stark> Darhak Thakore at mic
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[01:56:20] <Barbara Stark> And Ted again.
[01:56:58] <Barbara Stark> I just chatted with minute taker. He was at different Etherpad link. I've asked him to copy notes he's taken and continue at https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-100-httpbis
[01:56:58] <Yoav Weiss> Thanks blassey! :)
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[02:03:24] <Barbara Stark> That was Kazuho Oku at the mic
[02:03:31] <Barbara Stark> Martin Thomson now
[02:05:30] <Barbara Stark> Martin Thomson
[02:06:24] <Barbara Stark> Piortr Sikora at mic
[02:06:24] <Martin Thomson> Piotr Sikora (last name spelling only from memory)
[02:06:29] <Julian Reschke> I think this goes into the right discussion
[02:06:53] <Julian Reschke> Would be good to decice on adoption soon
[02:07:11] <Julian Reschke> Haven't read it in depth yet
[02:07:20] <=JeffH> julian: mic ?
[02:07:29] <Julian Reschke> JeffH, yes, please
[02:07:49] <=JeffH> the jabber scribe is relaying
[02:08:05] <Julian Reschke> s/discussion/direction/ of oourse
[02:08:46] <Martin Thomson> let's be clear: the details in the draft are definitely wrong.  I only looked at one of the algorithms and found errors.  That's not really the point though.
[02:09:05] <=JeffH> yeah, so it needs work… ok.
[02:10:11] <Lucas Pardue> yoav: icymi QUIC-HPACK may be a chance to revisit the static table definition https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/904
[02:10:33] <Yoav Weiss> Lucas: yay! :)
[02:11:59] <Barbara Stark> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/materials/slides-100-httpbis-sessa-cache-digest/
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[02:15:13] <=JeffH> what is "GCS" in this context ?
[02:15:22] <Lucas Pardue> Golomb-Rice Coded Set
[02:15:28] <=JeffH> thx
[02:15:42] <Lucas Pardue> I only know because I just looked it up for my notes
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[02:16:43] <Barbara Stark> Mike Bishop
[02:17:37] <Barbara Stark> Mark at mic
[02:18:58] <Barbara Stark> Sebastian Deckers
[02:22:23] <Barbara Stark> Senastian
[02:22:34] <Barbara Stark> Oops. Sebastian
[02:23:29] <Barbara Stark> Client Hints
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[02:25:16] <Barbara Stark> Martin
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[02:27:18] <Barbara Stark> Eric Rescorla
[02:27:36] <Barbara Stark> And back to Martin; to Eric
[02:29:28] <Barbara Stark> Eric
[02:33:48] <Barbara Stark> Eric at mic
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[02:35:13] <Barbara Stark> Martin at mic
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[02:37:05] <craigt> Can't see him
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[02:44:21] <Barbara Stark> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-nottingham-bcp56bis-00
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[02:50:24] <Barbara Stark> That was xavier marjou
[02:50:27] <Barbara Stark> And now Ted
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[02:57:02] <Lode Vandevenne> hi
[02:58:04] <=JeffH> what is filename of the draft being discussed?
[02:58:25] <Barbara Stark> Martin at mic
[02:58:38] <craigt> https://github.com/vkrasnov/h2-compression-dictionaries
[02:58:57] <Barbara Stark> I'm not sure which filename was discussed. Does anyone else know?
[02:58:58] <craigt> is the only resource i can see
[02:59:01] <=JeffH> thx
[02:59:05] <Barbara Stark> Thx
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[03:00:50] <Barbara Stark> Ian Swett was at mic
[03:01:27] <=JeffH> title: "Compression Dictionaries for HTTP/2"
[03:01:51] <=JeffH> https://github.com/vkrasnov/h2-compression-dictionaries/blob/master/draft-vkrasnov-h2-compression-dictionaries.md
[03:01:58] <Barbara Stark> Martin at mic
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[03:04:15] <craigt> For interest: https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/97/slides/slides-97-httpbis-sessb-vlad-compression-dictionaries-00.pdf
[03:04:15] <Martin Thomson> Lode Vandevenne: can you paste a link here?
[03:04:22] <Lucas Pardue> mic: would this work for HTTP/QUIC, or does it fall into the same out-of-order delivery trap as HPACK?
[03:04:40] <craigt> the 97 preso has the performance slides
[03:04:42] <Yoav Weiss> https://github.com/google/brotli/blob/master/fetch-spec/shared-brotli-fetch-spec.txt
[03:05:10] <Lode Vandevenne> thank you, that's the link
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