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[07:53:27] <wseltzer@jabber.org> http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/notes-ietf-96-httpbis?useMonospaceFont=true
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[07:56:07] rsalz has set the subject to: HTTP-BIS at IETF-96, FRIDAY MORNING
[07:56:42] <rsalz> If you want something said at the mic, put MIC in front or ping me.
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[08:03:28] <rsalz> chair slides, mark nottingham.
[08:03:34] <rsalz> RFC6265bis: adopted
[08:03:49] <rsalz> RFC6265bis: outstanding
[08:03:57] <rsalz> (shame on mark for no page numbers)
[08:05:01] <rsalz> mike west
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[08:07:49] <rsalz> mike bishop
[08:08:17] <rsalz> martin thomson
[08:08:54] <wseltzer@jabber.org> mt: "making cookies more usable is not a goal"
[08:11:38] <rsalz> write "hum YES" or "hum NO" when the time comes
[08:13:41] <rsalz> pete resnick
[08:14:16] <rsalz> martin
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[08:20:27] <rsalz> wendy seltzer
[08:21:13] <rsalz> martin
[08:21:24] <rsalz> mike west
[08:21:52] <rsalz> martin + mike west => repeat
[08:24:34] <rsalz> RFC6265bis: outstanding (still)
[08:24:36] <rsalz> martin
[08:27:04] <rsalz> mike
[08:28:05] <rsalz> martin
[08:29:38] <rsalz> "we should not be training users to type their password more often"
[08:30:41] <rsalz> patrick mcmanus
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[08:31:57] <rsalz> bryan call
[08:32:35] <rsalz> mike
[08:34:33] <rsalz> RFC6265bis: issues
[08:34:58] <rsalz> issue 159: allow cookies without key or value
[08:36:24] <rsalz> mike west
[08:37:03] <rsalz> julian reschke
[08:37:42] <rsalz> martin
[08:39:14] <rsalz> issue 199
[08:39:44] <rsalz> mike bishop
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[08:40:04] <rsalz> mike west
[08:40:39] <rsalz> issue 201
[08:41:13] <rsalz> martin
[08:41:36] <rsalz> mike west
[08:42:19] <rsalz> issue 204
[08:43:02] <rsalz> jeff hodges
[08:43:22] <Yoav Nir> That kind of implies that there is some other state mechanism.  Perhaps that's the intent
[08:44:30] <rsalz> RFC6265bis: isues (back to the slide)
[08:44:52] <rsalz> potential/related work
[08:46:15] <rsalz> mike bishop, secondary certificates
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[08:46:42] <rsalz> p2 server certificate
[08:48:08] <rsalz> p3 client certificate
[08:49:05] <rsalz> p4 why do certs in http
[08:51:18] <rsalz> p5 changes since buenos aires
[08:52:40] <rsalz> p6 ke ycritiques
[08:54:25] <rsalz> p7 biggest critique
[08:55:22] <rsalz> p8 because rfc 7540 said so!
[08:55:32] <rsalz> p9 extended settings
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[08:56:05] <rsalz> p10: enough for everyone?
[08:56:45] <rsalz> p11 payload layout
[08:57:16] <rsalz> p12 extended_settings vs vanilla settings
[08:57:51] <rsalz> p13 should we do this?
[08:58:38] <rsalz> martin thomson
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[09:03:35] <rsalz> nick sullivan
[09:03:46] <Yoav Nir> IMO moving that stuff to TLS makes for horrible cross-layer operation
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[09:06:56] <rsalz> oops, eric nygren
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[09:09:47] <rsalz> patrick mcmanus
[09:10:21] <rsalz> nick sullivan
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[09:11:41] <rsalz> http and the internet of things
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[09:11:53] <rsalz> gabriel montenegro
[09:12:29] <rsalz> communication patterns in IoT
[09:12:38] <rsalz> (sigh, no page numbers.  public shaming)
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[09:13:22] <rsalz> motivation for http/2 for IoT
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[09:15:31] <rsalz> common stack elements
[09:17:19] <rsalz> big block chart
[09:18:11] <rsalz> notes (skipped)
[09:18:18] <rsalz> importance of protocol reuse
[09:20:28] <rsalz> http2/: the best general alternative
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[09:21:59] <rsalz> http/2 as a good math for IoT
[09:23:23] <rsalz> oops: MATCH not math
[09:23:35] <rsalz> martin thomson
[09:26:01] <rsalz> IoT profile for http/2
[09:27:16] <rsalz> martin
[09:27:30] <rsalz> patrick mcmanus
[09:29:21] <rsalz> mike bishop
[09:29:52] <rsalz> http/2 as an important component in IoT
[09:30:16] <rsalz> (curse you, IoT, for forcing me to waste my waning last bits of strength on hitting the shift key)
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[09:34:33] <wseltzer@jabber.org> "the problem is not the lack of solutions"
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