httpbis - Monday, November 2, 2015

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Monday, November 2, 2015< ^ >

Julian Reschke has set the subject to: https://tools.ietf.org/wg/httpbis/agenda?item=agenda-93-httpbis.html

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[03:43:14] Yoav Nir has set the subject to: https://tools.ietf.org/wg/httpbis/agenda?item=agenda-94-httpbis.html
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[04:00:38] <Meetecho> just as a FYI for remote attendees, if you have any issue with remote audio or video, just mention us and we'll be automatically alerted so that we can look into it
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[04:06:38] <Yoav Nir> I will be monitoring Jabber.
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[04:06:49] <Julian Reschke> (good morning)
[04:06:53] <Barry Leiba> Heya
[04:07:31] <Yoav Nir> If you would like to to go to the mic and channel something, prefix with "mic:", but note that we are running a meetecho experiment, so you can also log in through the meetecho app and queue up on that. You would even be able to talk in your own voice.
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[04:13:37] <Yoav Nir> Some more people have joined, so let me releat:
[04:13:39] <Yoav Nir> If you would like to to go to the mic and channel something, prefix with "mic:", but note that we are running a meetecho experiment, so you can also log in through the meetecho app and queue up on that. You would even be able to talk in your own voice.
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[04:19:48] <Meetecho> Julian Reschke is in queue to talk remotely, just let us know when he needs to be unmuted
[04:20:43] <Barry Leiba> Please unmute Julian.
[04:20:43] <Julian Reschke> mic: right now we have a MUST in the security considerations
[04:20:50] <wseltzer> meetecho: please unmute Julian
[04:20:54] <Meetecho> we did
[04:21:03] <Meetecho> he also appeared in video
[04:21:13] <wseltzer> but we couldn't hear him
[04:21:17] <Meetecho> just unmuted him again
[04:21:28] <Julian Reschke> mic: do we agree on changing thisjust to advisory prose?
[04:21:35] <Barry Leiba> I think audio isn't working for him.
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[04:21:50] <Meetecho> yep
[04:21:55] <Meetecho> not a network issue as video was there
[04:21:59] <Julian Reschke> 9.5
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[04:22:08] <Julian Reschke> Section 9.5
[04:22:40] <Julian Reschke> mic: disagree
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[04:23:01] <Julian Reschke> mic: if a server can do it right for HTTP/2, it can do as well for 1.1
[04:23:33] <Julian Reschke> mic: disagree again
[04:24:00] <Lorenzo Miniero> Julian, we see a barred mic icon in your UI: did you reject the permission to access your microphone?
[04:24:07] <Lorenzo Miniero> if so, that's why we can't hear you
[04:24:15] <Julian Reschke> lorenzo: I don't think so
[04:24:41] <Natasha Rooney (schuki)> Meetecho instructions: Important: there will be an additional laptop sitting on the WG chair table at the front of the room, facing the chairs. This laptop will show the virtual queue. If you as the chair want to recognize a remote attendee in the virtual queue so that they can speak directly to/with everyone in the actual meeting room, just indicate verbally that you want to do so. A Meetecho team member will be remotely monitoring your session and will unmute the remote attendee in the queue when prompted by a chair.
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[04:24:49] <Natasha Rooney (schuki)> "indicate verbally" hmmmm
[04:24:50] <Erik Nygren> Leaving the existing "MUST" in-place for protocols where there is no way to convey the scheme or origin makes sense, but additional guidance also makes sense;
[04:25:26] <Barry Leiba> Natasha: I guess they mean "orally".
[04:25:34] <Barry Leiba> Because, of course, jabber is also verbal.
[04:25:40] <Julian Reschke> ...i see two more issues...
[04:25:59] <Lorenzo Miniero> Julian: just checked the logs and I see a recvonly audio channel for you, so either the permissions were rejected (which you didn't apparently) or your device was not found, sorry
[04:26:11] <Lorenzo Miniero> anyway, it confirms why we couldn't hear you
[04:26:38] <Julian Reschke> lorenzo: might try again later
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[04:27:13] <Julian Reschke> mic: problem with expert review requires finding experts
[04:27:27] <Lorenzo Miniero> (y)
[04:27:44] <Lorenzo Miniero> drop us a mail if you want to debug this later
[04:28:30] <Julian Reschke> mic: isee two more issues
[04:28:32] <Julian Reschke> https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/labels/alt-svc
[04:29:17] <Julian Reschke> mic: 98 and 101
[04:29:34] <Julian Reschke> mic: they do not seem to match Mark's query
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[04:33:01] <Julian Reschke> (I seem to have lost audio when logging in again)
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[04:38:22] <Martin Dürst> looking at https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/104 now
[04:39:24] <Lorenzo Miniero> Julian: I see your mic now, so if you try speaking again later it should (hopefully!) work this time
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[04:44:01] <Yoav Nir> Now discussing client certificates
[04:44:10] <Yoav Nir> Martin Thomson presenting
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[04:47:04] <Yoav Nir> "this" = "ignoring a problem doesn't make it go away"
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[05:10:57] <Meetecho> Julian in queue
[05:15:03] <Martin Dürst> looking at https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-reschke-http-jfv-02 now
[05:15:37] <Martin Dürst> my opinion: I hope this finally nails encoding in headers to UTF-8
[05:16:12] <Simon Romano> It's not black...it's simply magic :-)
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[05:30:02] <frodek> slides on google drive and requires permissions to access!......
[05:32:16] <Yoav Nir> Also here:
[05:32:16] <Yoav Nir> https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/94/slides/slides-94-httpbis-1.pdf
[05:32:31] <frodek> thx
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[05:43:09] <Yoav Nir> Now looking at the web "accept push policy" presso. Herve presenting
[05:43:18] <Yoav Nir> https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/94/slides/slides-94-httpbis-2.pdf
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[05:55:36] <Yoav Nir> Julian? Still there?
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[05:56:36] <Yoav Nir> ...guess not.
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