[14:21:39] sftcd has set the subject to: Homenet not @ IETF 107
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[14:31:27] <Warren Kumari> Hi all…
[14:31:48] <mcr> I am insulted by being a usual suspect. I demand to be called an unusual suspect!
[14:33:00] <mcr> https://etherpad.ietf.org:9009/p/notes-20200420-homenet is working better than https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/notes-20200420-homenet
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[14:33:20] <Ole Troan> ever so slow
[14:35:12] <mcr> Week 5 of IETF107. The IETF that never ends.
[14:36:42] <Warren Kumari> Gah. I use WebEx on a mac — dragging the "chat" box bigger is really fiddley - there is no visual feedback, and os you have to move the mouse in tiny bits to find the secret spot…
[14:37:07] <Warren Kumari> @MCR Yes, I really dislike this extended format…
[14:37:35] <Ole Troan> Oh, whereabout is the secret spot?
[14:37:37] <mcr> the whole left/right chat layout fails given that slides are wider than higher.
[14:38:25] <Warren Kumari> @ole: **slightly*** above the word "Chat"
[14:38:46] <Warren Kumari> move your mouse up and down sloly till the pinter changes..
[14:38:47] <Ole Troan> ah, found it! That's a bit random.
[14:38:50] <Warren Kumari> Yah!
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[14:40:13] <Ted Lemon> Hm, okay, got jabber working at least.
[14:40:30] <mcr> okay. so we didn't get a pw prompt from webex.
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[14:40:43] <mcr> Are you logged in? It works better if you are not, and don't ask for "Classic"
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[14:41:05] <mcr> You aren't the only person who has had problems with Safari and webrtc, it seems.
[14:42:19] <sftcd> @ted: just in case the URL I used was: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=mab3e771a8ed42ba6b338bc316524a757
[14:42:37] <sftcd> though ted seems to be gone from here
[14:42:58] <mcr> I'm guessing that his jabber died, or he decided to reboot.
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[14:44:35] <Ted Lemon> Wow. Yeah, the link on the agenda ended in ‘1’
[14:44:38] <mcr> see link from sftcd:
[14:45:00] <Ted Lemon> I finally got in using the one from etherpad
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[14:49:01] <Ted Lemon> One of the (MANY) problems with using Jabber at IETF is that there is no sandboxed jabber app for Mac, so I have to run Jabber on iPad, but the iPad app disconnects whenever I switch to Webex.  I wish we had a more competent IM solution for meetings.
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[14:55:34] <Ole Troan> Swift works fine on Mac.
[14:55:50] <Ole Troan> Had to roll my own jabber server though (Prosody). Guess you could also run that on your mac.
[15:01:59] <sftcd> the auth in oauth is for authorization not authentication
[15:13:17] <mglt> looks none hears me anymore.
[15:13:30] <mglt> I am fine with these actions to be taken on the list.
[15:17:15] <mcr> and it works when the ISP gives you only a single /64
[15:17:30] <mcr> it's basically /128 routing, using ND.
[15:20:56] <mcr> . o O ( unless it's UPnP )
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[15:34:20] <sftcd> maybe slide 11 is missing an option "maybe it's an ok idea but we don't have energy"
[15:35:05] <mcr> the RA thing should be done by some smart graduate students, write a paper, and report results. They may be negative, but the failures will be very interesting.
[15:35:18] <mcr> sftcd, don't you have graduate students?
[15:35:47] <sftcd> not for that, no, at this time
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[15:42:12] <mcr> I was going to mention the graduate student thing verbally, but maybe it belongs in the minutes, and maybe there is some way to tell the academic world of this problem.  Maybe we can tell Brian Carpenter.
[15:42:52] <sftcd> it't not clearly a problem that would attract an academic/student afaics
[15:43:25] <mcr> understood.  it needs someone to do the experiment.
[15:45:47] <mcr> _Ted and Michael's Excellent Routing Adventure_
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