- Wednesday, 1 August 2012

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Wednesday, 1 August 2012< ^ >

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[00:00:05] <dyork> There was no response, although multiple people nodded heads
[00:00:09] <dmitry.anipko> thanks :)
[00:00:25] <Michael Thomas> there's an after the fact audio too, isn't there?
[00:00:30] <dyork> Ralph Droms
[00:01:32] <Michael Thomas> yeah!
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[00:01:57] <Markus Stenberg> seems to work now
[00:02:21] <dyork> Dave Thaler at mic
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[00:04:03] <dyork> Iulia Ion at mic
[00:04:34] <dyork> suzy - can you take over as scribe for a bit? I have to take a phone call.
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[00:05:27] <suzworldwide> Stuart Cheshire at mic
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[00:07:19] <suzworldwide> Olafur Gudmundsson at the mic
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[00:10:21] <suzworldwide> Service Discovery Issues slide
[00:11:25] <suzworldwide> Anders Brandt at mic
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[00:12:20] <suzworldwide> Other Topics slide
[00:12:55] <Michael Thomas> mic: one thing that might be worthwhile bringing up is that one possible mechanism to preserve localization at a remote location is to just become part of the local network, ie, tunnels/vpns
[00:13:18] <suzworldwide> ok
[00:13:21] <Michael Thomas> tjx
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[00:14:05] <suzworldwide> murmur of approval :)
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[00:14:10] <suzworldwide> Dave Thaler at mic
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[00:23:01] <dyork> Next up... Jari Arkko on OSPFv3-Based Home Networking
[00:23:12] <dyork> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/slides/slides-84-homenet-6.pdf
[00:23:40] <dyork> Slide 2 - The Dream
[00:24:31] <dyork> Slide 3 - network diagram
[00:24:52] <suzworldwide> "OSPF-Based Home Networking"
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[00:26:13] <dyork> Slide - "Status Report"
[00:27:13] <dyork> Slide - "A HOMENET Network"
[00:29:27] <dyork> Slide - "Enabler for Other Things..."
[00:31:10] <dyork> Slide - "Draft-02 Updates"
[00:31:41] <cabo> http://coap.me/crawl/coap://toaster.objez.net
[00:32:19] <cabo> Ah, there it is: http://coap.me/coap://toaster.objez.net
[00:32:54] <suzworldwide> "Prefix Allocation Algorithm in Draft-02"
[00:34:15] <dyork> Slide - "Overview of the Algorithm"
[00:35:34] <dyork> Slide - "Allocations in the Algorithm"
[00:36:52] <dyork> Slide - "ULA Generation in Draft-02"
[00:38:15] <dyork> Cathy Aronson
[00:39:16] <dyork> Mark Townsley at mic
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[00:42:06] <dyork> Ralph Droms at mic
[00:44:57] <dyork> Lorenzo at mic
[00:44:58] <suzworldwide> Lorenzo Colitti at mic
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[00:47:19] <suzworldwide> Lorenzo back at mic
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[00:48:24] <Markus Stenberg> mic: Benjamin's implementation doesn't do it either - but we've thought about it quite a bit. You can do simplified case for home over the general source routing case.
[00:48:35] <dyork> (?) at mic
[00:48:45] <dyork> mstenbar - will relay... what is your full name?
[00:48:50] <Markus Stenberg> Markus Stenberg
[00:48:55] <dyork> thanks
[00:49:35] <Markus Stenberg> perhaps s/over/instead/ ;) Anyway, there are workarounds to make it simpler, but the question is, do we really want general solution or specific one.
[00:49:57] <suzworldwide> Dave Taht at mic
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[00:52:02] <dyork> Bernie Volz at mic
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[00:53:11] <dyork> Relayed, Markus.
[00:53:14] <dyork> Tim Chown at mic
[00:53:15] <Markus Stenberg> thanks!
[00:54:08] <dyork> Lorenzo Colitti at mic
[00:58:10] <dyork> Teco Boot at mic
[00:59:54] <dyork> Acee Lindem at mic
[01:00:05] <Markus Stenberg> .. draft doesn't have very good hysteresis guarantees right now .. :-)
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[01:01:15] <dyork> Bob Hinden at mic
[01:02:46] <dyork> Ashok Narayanan at mic
[01:03:35] <Markus Stenberg> BIRD implementation of OSPFv3 is ~20k-ish LoC
[01:03:42] <Markus Stenberg> (including kernel interfaces and all)
[01:05:57] <suzworldwide> "DNS Discovery in Draft-02"
[01:06:30] <dyork> David Oran at mic
[01:06:48] <dyork> (standing at mic... will be next speaker)
[01:08:20] <dyork> Lorenzo Colitti at mic
[01:08:40] <dyork> Stuart Cheshire at mic
[01:09:21] <dyork> Slide - "Experiences"
[01:10:06] <dyork> Slide - "Interactions with other parts"
[01:10:25] <dyork> Slide - "Topics for Further Discussion 1"
[01:10:58] <dyork> Slide - "Topics for Further Discussion 2"
[01:11:54] <dyork> No further comments - out of time
[01:12:07] <dyork> Next up...
[01:12:15] <dyork> Erik Klein - http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/slides/slides-84-homenet-7.pdf
[01:12:45] <dyork> Slide 2 - "Disclaimers"
[01:13:30] <dyork> Slide - "Scope and Terminology"
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[01:14:28] <dyork> Slide - "Signals we can use"
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[01:17:42] <dyork> Ray Bellis at mic (no hat)
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[01:19:10] <dyork> Michael Richardson at mic
[01:19:50] <dyork> Sooooo... *IF* discussion continues past 6:30pm, would anyone volunteer to take over as Jabber scribe/relay? Both Suzy and I have different meetings to which we need to go.
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[01:28:50] <dyork> Slide - "What to do with IPoE?"
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[01:30:38] <dyork> Slide - "Additional considerations"
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[01:33:31] <suzworldwide> gotta run.....
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[01:34:04] <dyork> And I, too, have to leave...
[01:34:40] <dyork> And we're done.
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[01:35:07] <Markus Stenberg> g'night, and thanks!
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