[02:34:10] katrin joins the room [04:35:05] Pete McCann joins the room [04:54:22] katrin leaves the room [05:01:29] katrin joins the room [05:12:17] polk.tim joins the room [05:12:31] having audio issues [05:12:56] tomtaylor joins the room [05:13:29] about to start 5296bis [05:13:31] Beset by technical difficulties here [05:13:53] Katrin, are you listening to the audio feed? Can you hear Qin Wu? [05:15:29] Chart "Status" [05:15:51] The audio is completely dead. [05:15:55] We hear quiet static. [05:15:56] semery joins the room [05:16:07] Up now? [05:16:11] Nope. [05:16:25] Up now... [05:16:30] ahh Audio is back again [05:16:45] Back down... [05:16:45] but very quite and lots of noise [05:17:06] Same here. [05:17:35] Issue #1 [05:20:24] Sebastien questioned what he meant [05:20:24] It sounds like we are getting ambient sound from one of the microphones in the room but not the one the speaker is using. [05:20:39] Just a sec [05:21:15] Maybe you'll get it in stereo now! [05:21:18] jimsch joins the room [05:21:24] Glen comes through just fine. [05:21:42] Sebastien, of course [05:21:46] His mic is working. [05:21:46] same for me, can;t hear Qin at all! [05:22:00] Yes, the other two mics are not... [05:28:14] polk.tim leaves the room [05:32:50] polk.tim joins the room [05:33:14] Sebastien is saying that Case 4 is necessary because implicit bootstrapping will work (at the time of authentication), but explicit bootstrapping will not because the key will not be signed with a signature the local ER recognizes [05:33:48] Issue 2 [05:34:00] BTW issue 1 goes to the list [05:36:10] I said proposal looked reasonable. May be missing something [05:36:21] More review invited [05:38:35] On the next presentation. Slide EEP in Hokey architecture [05:40:21] Chart Early authentication model discussion [05:40:29] BTW is audio good? [05:40:38] audio is good now! [05:40:45] Audio from the speaker is quite good (although he is a little too close to the mic) [05:40:55] Floor questions are still just barely audible. [05:41:04] Using the Chairs' mic -- a bit awkward [05:41:49] Qin at mic [05:42:21] he's not audible [05:43:09] Different mic -- was saying not much interest in inter-domain case [05:44:06] Early authen second chart -- text, diagrams in middle, table at bottom [05:44:51] Qin: for new model more like AAK [05:45:54] Next chart -- tree, no best model for all cases [05:48:34] Inter-AAA-realm handover statement chart [05:50:11] Problem 1 slide [05:54:00] Problem 2 chart [05:55:27] Problem 3 chart [05:56:17] Problem 4 chart [05:56:55] Further Discussion chart [05:58:25] Next chart (problem 2 further discussion) [05:58:36] next -- EEP [05:59:12] Next -- design idea [05:59:41] Done [06:04:40] That was Lionel, now Sebastien [06:07:48] Presentation outline [06:08:05] next -- Some facts [06:10:09] Cont'd [06:10:45] First change [06:12:03] First change, solution [06:13:06] First change, protocol impact [06:14:57] First change, addtl comments [06:15:27] Second change, problem [06:16:29] solution [06:18:03] discussion time [06:24:04] Qin: second change, problem description [06:26:53] Still that chart showing [06:28:20] Thanks for huddling around the lone microphone. [06:28:55] tomtaylor leaves the room [06:33:29] semery leaves the room: Disconnected [06:43:38] tidty joins the room [06:43:46] tidty leaves the room [06:44:49] polk.tim leaves the room [06:45:25] jimsch leaves the room [06:45:42] Pete McCann leaves the room [06:53:11] katrin leaves the room [07:03:27] semery joins the room [07:09:43] tomtaylor joins the room [07:09:53] tomtaylor leaves the room [07:19:15] jimsch1 joins the room [07:22:39] semery leaves the room [07:47:41] jimsch1 leaves the room