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[18:03:40] <vifajardo1> Qin is presenting
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[18:06:47] <vifajardo1> yoshi: new model is not EAP pre-auth
[18:07:04] <vifajardo1> qualified as pro-active key distribution
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[18:07:17] <AlperYegin> no jabber?
[18:07:31] <vifajardo1> intermittent connection
[18:08:09] <vifajardo1> glenn: other groups are following yoshi's interpretation of the RFC
[18:08:27] <vifajardo1> katrina: is new model necessary ?
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[18:12:13] <AlperYegin> No PPT uploaded?
[18:12:21] <vifajardo1> not yet
[18:12:36] <vifajardo1> are you guys on audio ?
[18:12:41] <AlperYegin> i am
[18:12:54] <AlperYegin> slides should have been uploaded prior to the meeting
[18:13:01] <AlperYegin> :(
[18:13:21] <vifajardo1> :)
[18:16:46] <AlperYegin> standing up!
[18:21:11] <vifajardo1> alper
[18:21:20] <vifajardo1> against the new model or not ?
[18:21:27] <AlperYegin> against
[18:22:00] <AlperYegin> what is the conclusion?
[18:22:05] <AlperYegin> of the humm.....?
[18:22:12] <vifajardo1> so far its equal
[18:22:25] <AlperYegin> chair should state it
[18:22:31] <AlperYegin> he may have a different ear
[18:23:17] <AlperYegin> is the meeting over?
[18:23:21] <vifajardo1> not yet
[18:23:21] <AlperYegin> audio has fainted
[18:23:28] <vifajardo1> subir is commenting
[18:24:14] <vifajardo1> if its a terminology issue ... would it be acceptable
[18:24:21] <vifajardo1> alper ?
[18:25:57] <AlperYegin> calling early authentication is confusing
[18:26:45] <AlperYegin> that name is confusing
[18:26:45] <vifajardo1> can we resolve this by terminology ?
[18:26:50] <AlperYegin> proactive keying is better
[18:27:45] <vifajardo1> ok
[18:28:51] <AlperYegin> who is the second editor?
[18:28:55] <vifajardo1> so far yoshi and quin will work on terminology issue
[18:29:10] <vifajardo1> Glen: only one editor
[18:30:36] <vifajardo1> bechets will not present
[18:30:44] <vifajardo1> slides will be posted
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