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[06:06:09] <davidbnelson> Hi Alan!
[06:06:56] <Alan DeKok> Hi.
[06:07:16] <Alan DeKok> Trying to get audio stream working..
[06:08:58] <davidbnelson> The chair is going thu the agebda.
[06:09:23] <Alan DeKok> OK... got it working
[06:09:40] <davidbnelson> On the document status slide.
[06:13:42] <davidbnelson> Key management intro slide.
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[06:15:48] <davidbnelson> Approaches slie.
[06:16:55] <davidbnelson> Goals slide.
[06:18:56] <davidbnelson> Key Exchange Distribution preso.
[06:42:56] <davidbnelson> ERP over AAA preso.
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[06:48:11] <Alan DeKok> Re: RADEXT && DTLS, I don't think there's an issue.  RADEXT may be doing both keywrap && DTLS.
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[07:32:20] <Alan DeKok> This is an issue in RADIUS today... AAA proxies see clear-text usernames && passwords.
[07:32:33] <Alan DeKok> And can invent any kind of authentication and accounting that they desire.
[07:33:56] <Alan DeKok> Proof is username && password, which *everyone* has access to, and can therefore spoof.
[07:35:24] <Alan DeKok> Glen is right.  ERX is about *one* authentication, and *one* accounting stream.  If there are two accounting streams from one domain, then fraud detection gets hit.
[07:38:50] <ldondeti> indeed
[07:39:02] <ldondeti> we could design solutions for non-problems
[07:39:28] <ldondeti> but at least I don't want to be forced to use them :)
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[07:55:05] <davidbnelson> Pre-Authentication preso.
[07:55:44] <davem> sighh.... sometimes when Windows Media player loses the connection it starts the audio over from some time in the past...
[07:56:09] <davem> I'e been listening to old stuff for the past 5 some minutes..
[07:58:51] <davidbnelson> Document will go to WGLC in a couple of weeks.
[07:59:47] <davidbnelson> End of session.
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