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[04:59:43] <Mike Jones> Are the rest of you hearing the buzzing noise in the audio?
[04:59:54] <Lucy Lynch> yes
[04:59:56] <Bron Gondwana> yes, it's pretty bad
[05:00:02] <Justin Richer> I"m hearing it, but it's getting quieter it seems.
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[05:00:26] <Lucy Lynch> it comes and goes
[05:00:38] <Bron Gondwana> there's a buzzing sounds and a shuffling sound
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[05:01:48] <Justin Richer> It does seem to be coming from Leif's audio stream, though
[05:02:00] <Kathleen Moriarty> Good morning.  Buzz is still there, but better when you speak.
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[05:03:07] <Bron Gondwana> I suspect Leif was using the built-in microphone rather than the bluetooth headset one.  Sound didn't change at all
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[05:04:55] <Leif Johansson> possibly - I switched confusors
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[05:06:21] <Dave Tonge> I volunteer
[05:06:36] <Justin Richer> Thank you!
[05:06:36] <Roman Danyliw/jabber> Thank you so much Dave!
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[05:24:54] <Lucy Lynch> my audio doesnt toggle
[05:25:20] <Justin Richer> or type in chat?
[05:25:48] <Lucy Lynch> I'm concerned about substantial work being stored on git alone
[05:26:06] <alex-meetecho> Lucy Lynch: issues with audio?
[05:26:18] <Lucy Lynch> so supporting work that informs the work needs to be mirrored to the list
[05:26:34] <Lucy Lynch> git isn't under ietf control long term
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[05:28:25] <Joseph Kalfa> gitlab maybe?
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[05:29:37] <Fabien Imbault> eventually there will be https://radicle.xyz as an alternative, but not ready
[05:29:46] <Roman Danyliw/jabber> All consensus must be done on ML
[05:29:49] <Bron Gondwana> We don't want to run it ourselves for one group, so it would have to be IETF-wide.  Mostly IETF seems to be moving towards github.  It's possible (via API) to extract all the data and dump it somewhere we do control
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[05:31:01] <Bron Gondwana> I was just responding to the "gitlab rather than github" suggestion
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[05:32:17] <Joseph Kalfa> that's fair, but if we want to control it, I figured gitlab was close enough to github that convincing everyone to move would easier than to some other platform
[05:33:01] <Lucy Lynch> one word - watersprings
[05:33:19] <Lucy Lynch> we need stuff inside the ietf envelope
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[05:34:21] <Roman Danyliw/jabber> @Justin: thanks for making the clarifying "this is not oauth 3" statement.
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[05:36:29] <Roman Danyliw/jabber> @Lucy: IETF tools team is backing WG github repos
[05:37:26] <Yaron Sheffer> @roman I don't know of a process to inform them of the WG repos etc. and ensure that we are backed up.
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[05:48:44] <Roman Danyliw/jabber> @Yaron: this a bit of an emerging process.  Discovery is one of those issues.  I should have said "beginning to backup ..."
[05:50:35] <Lucy Lynch> I think scoping is more important
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[05:51:03] <Dick Hardt> +1
[05:51:09] <Fabien Imbault> +1
[05:51:39] <Lucy Lynch> you need to be able to defend a term in context and avoid collisions with existing work
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[05:53:03] <Lucy Lynch> so avoid new uses of well known terms
[05:53:34] <Leif Johansson> yeah totally - this is going to be hard wrt to everything else going on in this space
[05:53:37] <Lucy Lynch> "novel uses"
[05:53:52] <Fabien Imbault> yes
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[05:58:53] <Roman Danyliw/jabber> Is that just me losing the meetecho stream?
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[05:59:13] <Kathleen Moriarty> Yes, I have it still
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[05:59:50] <Roman Danyliw/jabber> @Kathleen.  Thanks.  I'm back after tab reload.
[05:59:59] <Kathleen Moriarty> good!
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[06:02:34] <Lucy Lynch> revocation and consent will both bite you here
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[06:07:11] <Tobia Castaldi> FYI: if you are not getting audio you can use the "reconnect audio button" (bottom-right corner of the page)
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[06:23:25] <Yaron Sheffer> +1 to minimizing optionality
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[06:46:02] <Dick Hardt> if the "access" request is an array, it can be an array for a single token, or multiple tokens -- no polymorphism needed.
[06:52:58] <Justin Richer> @dick but that doesn't allow for left-hand values to label tokens, you need an object for that.
[06:53:23] <Dick Hardt> I'm agreeing with your suggestion of having the label be in the object
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[06:56:25] <Justin Richer> Thank you, everyone!
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[06:56:33] <Aaron Parecki> thanks!
[06:56:47] <Fabien Imbault> thanks
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