[07:17:13] Adam Uzelac joins the room [07:33:34] James W joins the room [07:34:43] Adam Uzelac leaves the room [07:40:56] martin.thomson joins the room [07:47:07] At least i am not alone in here anymore [07:55:03] ted_qualcomm joins the room [07:55:09] Hey Ted [07:55:12] Howdy [07:55:16] enrico joins the room [07:55:16] Alissa Cooper joins the room [07:56:41] gcaron joins the room [07:58:03] Bruce joins the room [07:58:45] ben joins the room [07:59:07] Is anyone getting audio yet? [07:59:25] not me [07:59:30] Hi, I'm monitoring the geopriv jabber room for any comments for the microphone [07:59:40] Thanks Ben [08:00:19] Is there a problem with the audio stream? [08:00:33] I haven't got any yet [08:00:39] Have tried a few times [08:00:44] Will try again [08:00:55] got it now [08:01:24] on agenda bashing [08:01:25] Hmm.. not me.. *8( [08:01:40] channel 1 [08:02:04] richard.barnes joins the room [08:02:18] mhp joins the room [08:02:38] Stupid aussie link [08:02:47] john.zhao joins the room [08:03:02] that's right [08:03:38] IP-CENTREX joins the room [08:04:41] CMW5S41 joins the room [08:05:36] Anything exciting happening? [08:05:49] real-time powerpoint edits [08:05:58] moving the location events/filters up to before deref [08:06:03] minor agenda bash--changing order a bit to reflect chartered work [08:06:31] Lisa joins the room [08:06:49] Cullen Jennings joins the room [08:06:50] kk [08:07:00] Barbara joins the room [08:07:02] mary: we need more feedback on that [08:07:27] martin: was that for the mic? [08:07:42] sorry, that was for the benefit of the room [08:07:55] chat room or physical room [08:07:56] I'm in the room, so don't mind my comments [08:08:01] ah [08:08:12] in the flesh [08:08:31] got it. [08:08:53] ted responded: but no love [08:09:12] Steaming to Oz doesn't seem to work very at all [08:10:46] suzukisn joins the room [08:13:14] What is happening now? [08:13:49] lively discussion on retransmission draft. James Polk thinks it creates an effectively required new SIP header. [08:13:55] mandatory, that is [08:14:02] Eric Rescorla joins the room [08:14:25] The number of slide decks on the web site appear to be uh, 0 [08:14:31] Should have put it last on the agenda [08:14:48] This topic could eat the agenda on its own [08:15:04] richard.barnes leaves the room [08:15:32] richard.barnes joins the room [08:16:43] Now what? [08:16:57] lynch joins the room [08:17:13] ted is throwing up the recommendations on a slide [08:17:27] still retrans discussion [08:18:47] richard.barnes leaves the room [08:20:06] looks like entire argument is based on a mis-read of the document [08:20:26] Eric Rescorla leaves the room [08:20:38] Eric Rescorla joins the room [08:20:40] richard.barnes joins the room [08:21:29] ted is not on mic, but is happy to facilitate keith's comment [08:22:24] any hands in the jabber room? [08:22:42] ted is asking who objects? [08:22:58] polk.tim joins the room [08:23:03] No audio. No idea what's going on. [08:23:33] ted asks how many object to semantics in the draft. Only James Polk objects. [08:23:40] ted has decided that about a dozen agree with the semantics [08:26:05] ted: we hate them and we'd wish they go away [08:26:06] ted said: we hate them and we hope they go away [08:26:11] No audio in Oz or Atlanta it seems [08:26:29] in reference to b2buas [08:26:44] Ah okay.. not the 12 that agree [08:27:00] Hannes comes to front--no slides [08:28:11] on b2buas, we pointed Henning to the section on that in the draft [08:29:08] ekr, sorry about my slides not being up; I sent them to Robert, but we honestly didn't expect them to take any time based on the list discussion so far. [08:29:20] The recommendations from the draft were the only bit of the slides put up. [08:29:57] Is this deref? [08:30:08] So, NONE of the slides are ip. [08:31:11] they are working on getting slides up [08:31:31] Ah okay [08:31:37] But is this Deref? [08:31:56] cullen off the mike: I don't get paid enough for this job... [08:31:57] who is still having audio trouble? [08:32:06] richard.barnes leaves the room [08:32:07] Me [08:32:09] Me [08:32:19] we're on deref now [08:32:31] Thanks [08:32:37] richard.barnes joins the room [08:32:37] WPM01906 joins the room [08:33:25] marc on mic [08:35:48] Barbara leaves the room [08:36:10] lj324o230ar joins the room [08:40:15] slides should be coming up on the data tracker now [08:40:27] [08:43:29] xmlscott joins the room [08:43:44] richard on mic [08:44:01] xmlscott leaves the room [08:44:14] I'm seeing the slides. Very helpful [08:46:16] on to location event/filter drafts [08:53:28] ray joins the room [08:53:39] on lo-sec [08:54:56] lynch leaves the room [08:56:23] richard.barnes leaves the room [08:56:45] IP-CENTREX leaves the room [08:57:05] richard.barnes joins the room [09:01:45] ray leaves the room [09:07:43] richard.barnes leaves the room [09:10:58] hum in favor [09:11:05] Exodus joins the room [09:11:35] richard.barnes joins the room [09:12:54] held extensions [09:16:15] danwing joins the room [09:16:51] mark.jones joins the room [09:19:26] So, if I'm reading this correctly, one potential setting is that the Device gives this information to the LIS and the LIS returns location information based on that, right? [09:19:59] Doesn't that have some significant security implications if the device lies? [09:20:17] ekr--is that for the mike? [09:20:34] Unless someone understands on Jabber and wants to answer. [09:20:37] Yes, please, I guess [09:21:09] The answer is "yes", ekr [09:21:23] OK, so that's not covered in this document at all... [09:21:49] i'm in queu after henning [09:21:53] Thanks, Ben [09:23:44] I'll review it. [09:24:09] mark.jones leaves the room [09:26:12] Lisa leaves the room [09:32:05] ted_qualcomm leaves the room: Disconnected. [09:32:06] ted_qualcomm joins the room [09:50:17] danwing leaves the room [09:50:22] danwing joins the room [09:55:09] enrico leaves the room [10:05:28] polk.tim leaves the room [10:14:16] James W leaves the room [10:20:14] James W joins the room [10:30:21] john.zhao leaves the room: Computer went to sleep [10:32:26] Alissa Cooper leaves the room [10:32:30] ted_qualcomm leaves the room: Disconnected. 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