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[10:06:31] <jlcjohn> Um... the audio is pretty useless. :^(
[10:07:15] <jlcjohn> Sorry: audio OK now that Brian is talking...
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[10:14:40] <resnick> Is someone jabber scribing in the room?
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[10:26:41] <wouter> next topic: Scott on Pesci
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[10:33:42] <wouter> discussion on pesci design teams.
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[10:42:37] <wouter> next topic: Brian on process issues in general
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[10:59:51] <klensin> A "general area meeting at which one can rant" used to be called by a special term. We called it an "open plenary"
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[11:10:57] * hartmans would love to get back to plenaries that are useful.
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[11:20:42] * hartmans totally forgot to support work on fixing the standards track
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[11:30:55] <becarpenter> BTW all presentations for genarea are now at https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/meeting_materials.cgi?meeting_num=65
[11:31:46] <becarpenter> JCK: ranting in tonight's plenary remains possible
[11:37:50] <klensin> Nope. Not unless the Nomcom can pass out drugs that cause people to get along.
[11:38:12] <klensin> As soon as the chair comes to the nomcom with that request, they have a position to fill
[11:39:07] <harald> now I'm not seeing the connections between the lines....
[11:39:11] <klensin> Again, if the IETF Chair comes and say "fire him", he is submitting his resignation if you decline to do that.
[11:41:48] <harald> get the feeling that I'm seeing half a conversation - and the logs at http://www.ietf.org/meetings/ietf-logs/genarea@rooms.jabber.ietf.org/2006-03-22.html don't say much more....
[11:44:47] <hartmans> But it is an interesting half of a conversation.
[11:50:38] <harald> hm. the only difference I can tell between this process and the current process is that the IRB is binding on the RFC Editor, and that the reviews are public.
[11:50:58] <harald> ah. selection of IRB is also different.
[11:53:01] <harald> and I think he's removing the basis for the "not reviewed in the IETF" label currently attached.
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