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[14:44:52] I'm sorry, they aren't up on the site, I'll ask at the mic, wait one [14:45:30] the slides just show the requirements from the draft, in case you need them right now [14:46:15] bhstark leaves the room [14:46:22] roger promises two or three minutes until they are online [14:46:28] ok [14:47:30] bhstark joins the room [14:50:49] ted disagrees [14:51:39] hannes at the mic [14:52:57] bhstark leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [14:53:14] some materials are being uploaded now [14:55:45] bhstark joins the room [14:56:05] At the mike pls [14:56:15] ted: the underlying requirement is that the psap needs to check that the guy is in need of help [14:56:29] or still in need of help [14:56:39] lj324o230ar joins the room [14:58:35] Jack leaves the room [14:58:35] henning [14:58:57] Who was before Henning? [14:59:07] Jack joins the room [14:59:30] 3gpp chair, I didn't catch the name [14:59:36] he said it [14:59:38] thx [15:01:10] keith at mic [15:02:51] ted: and he said that after they cut the line [15:04:07] slide: abandoned call [15:05:39] this is marc [15:06:27] ted at mic [15:07:00] andrew allen [15:07:37] slide: requirements for abandoned calls [15:08:09] marc at mic [15:09:59] ted again [15:12:15] henning at mic [15:14:40] What is the urgency to finish framework and phonebcp now? [15:14:52] I'll ask [15:16:14] Is it possible to represent Brian's requirements at a "user experience" level rathr than a SIP signaling level? [15:16:26] was Hannes response enough, Guy? [15:16:44] I haven't heard [15:16:44] I think that Ted was talking about the user experience level - that is the disagreement [15:17:12] He is talking about implementing in the user interface which is different. [15:17:23] he suggested that we should finish the docs lest they be perpetually unfinished [15:17:49] then I'm not sure what you mean by "user experience" then [15:17:50] Makes no sense to flash a warning dialogue to OJ with an axe "do you really want to hang up?" [15:18:28] running out of time on the topic, should I stand up and ask these questions? [15:19:01] I think it might be worthwhile [15:19:02] presentations are online [15:20:02] is the question: Is it possible to represent Brian's requirements at a "user experience" level rathr than a SIP signaling level? [15:21:52] Experimental? [15:22:21] Henning skips through all the slides [15:22:34] that was too fast for me :) [15:22:48] lost-sync: status slide [15:23:52] Slide: To do (lots skipped) [15:25:11] done. next. 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[15:53:14] hum [15:54:00] guy - I assume that was a hum in favour [15:54:05] yes [15:54:13] lost extensions: in favour or not? [15:54:19] one sec [15:54:57] HannesTschofenig leaves the room [15:57:10] HannesTschofenig joins the room [15:57:18] non-emergency? in favour or not? [15:57:59] discussion between chairs [15:58:23] authority 2 citizen in favour or not? [15:58:40] in the ietf, at all [15:58:51] hum for in ECRIT [15:59:48] I'll pass that on [15:59:53] Brian is up [16:05:02] head nodding from the back of the room [16:06:10] HannesTschofenig leaves the room [16:06:13] which draft? [16:07:28] that was richard's rough loc [16:07:42] my apologies [16:08:12] we are going through in the same order as previously, in case I'm slow at typiing [16:08:20] we are on unauthenticated access [16:08:23] ok. thanks [16:09:21] If Marc could say a draft name instead of "this draft", that would be helpful. 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