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Thursday, 2 August 2012< ^ >
Jacky Yao11 (Health Yao) has set the subject to: EAI Interim Meeting
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[15:49:37] <arnt> hi.
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[15:52:41] <arnt> hi sm
[15:52:45] <arnt> will you be in eai?
[15:52:59] <SM> Hi Arnt. I am remote
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[15:53:26] <arnt> I hear nothing on stream01... do you?
[15:53:37] <resnick> We just got here.
[15:53:40] <SM> The stream is not up yet.
[15:53:43] <resnick> Shall we test the mics for you.
[15:54:03] <arnt> yes, please.
[15:54:08] <resnick> Good.
[15:54:57] <resnick> Did you hear?
[15:54:58] <SM> Pete, can you please see whether the stream is up?
[15:55:16] <arnt> I heard, and hear, nothing at all.
[15:55:23] <resnick> OK, we will check into it.
[15:55:30] <arnt> with itunes on a mac.
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[15:58:26] <resnick> Aha!
[15:58:35] <resnick> Streaming starts at precisely the top of the hour.
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[15:58:48] <resnick> So wait < 2 minutes and we'll try again.
[15:58:55] <arnt> okay.
[16:00:46] <arnt> my mac plays, rather quietly, but it plays.
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[16:01:26] <resnick> Did you hear that?
[16:01:30] <SM> Stream is working.
[16:01:34] <arnt> works fine
[16:01:36] <arnt> great
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[16:04:28] <josephyee> will start in 2 minutes
[16:04:41] <arnt> many people in the room?
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[16:05:16] <arnt> f00. my 30h old nexus 7 can't stream ietf audio.
[16:05:30] <arnt> naughty google.
[16:05:57] <josephyee> time to hit marketplace/google-play :)
[16:06:15] <josephyee> maybe because it's silence in the room
[16:08:04] <arnt> trying. gplay is full of shit. adware to stream youtube. the king james streaming bible.
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[16:10:08] Jacky Yao11 (Health Yao) has set the subject to: EAI 84th Meeting
[16:10:25] <Jacky Yao11 (Health Yao)> agent bashing
[16:10:32] <john.levine> about 20 people physically in the room
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[16:10:41] <Jacky Yao11 (Health Yao)> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/slides/slides-84-eai-0.pdf
[16:11:03] <Jacky Yao11 (Health Yao)> mailinglist doc in the hands of AD
[16:11:44] <Jacky Yao11 (Health Yao)> no more comments to mailing list document
[16:12:12] <Jacky Yao11 (Health Yao)> now : draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis-06
draft-ietf-eai-5738bis-06
draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade-06
draft-ietf-eai-simpledowngrade-05
[16:13:16] <arnt> this sounds as if it's the last meeting before beer time. at a meeting sponsored by a brewery.
[16:13:44] <resnick> There have been a few hands, but not impressive.
[16:13:46] <Jacky Yao11 (Health Yao)> any comments to this drafts? a few hands raise to show to have read these documents
[16:15:07] <arnt> fwiw, I've made all the comments about these four that I'm going to make. I've been loud enough.
[16:16:18] <Jacky Yao11 (Health Yao)> john levine is in the mic
[16:18:47] <resnick> That thank you was for you Arnt.
[16:19:20] <Jacky Yao11 (Health Yao)> john levine in the mic
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[16:22:49] <Jacky Yao (Health Yao)> no obejection from the room to send draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis-06
draft-ietf-eai-5738bis-06
draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade-06
draft-ietf-eai-simpledowngrade-05 to AD ASAP
[16:23:22] <Jacky Yao (Health Yao)> now item 4:MAILTO and and other related protocol items
[16:24:10] <Jacky Yao (Health Yao)> john is in the mic
[16:24:32] <Jacky Yao (Health Yao)> pete is in the mic
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[16:26:49] <arnt> who's mumbling at the mike?
[16:27:14] <SM> Alexey asked about AD sponsoring of the mailto draft
[16:27:25] <Jacky Yao (Health Yao)> Pete: whether MAILTO doc goes to EAI WG doc, he does not concern it. he concerns the reviews from invidual to these documents
[16:27:37] <Jacky Yao (Health Yao)> Pete
[16:27:39] <Jacky Yao (Health Yao)> AD
[16:28:52] <Jacky Yao (Health Yao)> Pete said that there is a risk to be a AD sponsored document. there were painful experience.
[16:29:09] <Jacky Yao (Health Yao)> john is speaking
[16:30:07] <Jacky Yao (Health Yao)> randall is speaking
[16:30:49] <Jacky Yao (Health Yao)> debating for the mailto doc
[16:31:40] <arnt> channel please: so what if one knows stuff fairly well, but thinks that correct handling og plus in localpart is NOT TO BE RELIED ON, and that any work that presumes correct handling is wasted?
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[16:34:24] <Jacky Yao (Health Yao)> randall is speaking
[16:35:11] <Jacky Yao (Health Yao)> pete is speaking
[16:36:52] <Jacky Yao (Health Yao)> john is speaking
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[16:39:25] <arnt> clamouring for the exit, more likely
[16:40:07] <Jacky Yao (Health Yao)> discussion: whether it is ok to move eai mailto to IRI wg?
[16:40:31] <Jacky Yao (Health Yao)> joseph and pete are speaking
[16:40:51] <Jacky Yao (Health Yao)> john is speaking
[16:41:14] <arnt> IRI is hard, but people fuck up plain old email addresses too. at least 80% of web forms refused to let me enter arnt+23hatever@whatever. so the premise is wrong.
[16:44:56] <Jacky Yao (Health Yao)> chair will post this mailto issue to eai mailing list
[16:45:40] <Jacky Yao (Health Yao)> Presentation: EAI deployment in China & Concerns from software and service providers (YAO, JianKang)
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[17:17:39] <Jacky Yao (Health Yao)> many in the room show their interests in the next EAI demo event.
[17:17:48] <Jacky Yao (Health Yao)> now item 6
[17:18:25] <Jacky Yao (Health Yao)> 6 Plans for the WG, including any discussion that is needed
about the "advice" drafts
[17:19:07] <Jacky Yao (Health Yao)> anything else?
[17:19:15] <Jacky Yao (Health Yao)> 7 AOB
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[17:20:48] <Jacky Yao (Health Yao)> meeting adjourn.
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