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[13:33:24] audio is fine for me [13:33:27] Audio is quite ok for me [13:33:29] audio is fine so far [13:33:29] i think most folks have audio - but i will try relay questions from the jabber. [13:33:44] Sumanth Channabasappa is at the mike [13:36:24] Chris Griffiths leaves the room [13:36:47] suzukisn joins the room [13:36:58] chris griffiths joins the room [13:37:15] David Schwartz @ mike: suggest that we put all new terms and common architecture pictures into one document [13:37:20] Olle E. Johansson, Sollentuna, Sweden (GMT+1 DST) joins the room [13:44:42] pee000 joins the room [13:47:52] Joe Hildebrand joins the room [13:51:09] Joe Hildebrand leaves the room: Disconnected. [13:57:46] otmar joins the room [14:05:06] spencerdawkins joins the room [14:05:55] eburger joins the room [14:08:48] The differentiation between different Services can be done by the querying clients - depending upon what service it is interested in. [14:10:04] Exactly...the ENUM/SIP client makes a query, and gets back multiple responses - it can then select which of the service types it is interested in, and chooses that one [14:11:35] Joe Hildebrand joins the room [14:12:02] Joe Hildebrand leaves the room [14:16:49] Not sure if David is looking for Presence related information to be distributed down to a local data repository? [14:19:06] saverio.niccolini joins the room [14:19:12] Olle E. Johansson, Sollentuna, Sweden (GMT+1 DST) leaves the room [14:19:24] saverio.niccolini leaves the room [14:23:06] AndyHutton joins the room [14:25:20] AndyHutton leaves the room [14:26:33] RjS leaves the room [14:28:42] Can someone pose alternatives to NAPTR? [14:29:40] manjul, have you looked at Alex's SED draft? [14:30:10] y, but like JFM was just stating [14:30:11] all the information elements he listed might need to be communicated [14:30:55] IMO, if the downstream systems are using ENUM and SIP as the query protocols, it makes it easier all around and reduces interoperability challenges [14:31:55] I won't repeat myself again (see my messages last year on the list): this is all the result of mixing up LUF and LRF. [14:32:20] LUF is fine with ENUM/NAPTR [14:32:26] LRF isn't. [14:33:03] otmar: unfortunately we can't create the underlying protocol when we create the provisioning for :-/ [14:34:08] Alex, I know. THis group just lacks the cojones to admit that the problem includes a classical routing problem which actually needs a full blown routing protocol. [14:34:49] The current design just pushes the complexity into the registry where magic needs to happen. [14:34:59] Yes, but we are not chartered to create a routing protocol. And if we would, we wouldn't finish before i retire. [14:35:29] Will work fine for pure peering setups like the US MSO routing. [14:35:50] Good point Alex - defining a Routing protocol is not within the charter for DRINKS....I think something that like that lies more within SPEERMINT context [14:36:13] It will not works for worldwide VoIP routing. [14:36:40] We will end up with a system like using proxy ARP for IP routing. [14:40:25] there's a border to worldwide VoIP routing anyways, and that's built on $$$ :-/ [14:41:13] yeah, there is too much money being made solving that problem by throwing manpower with excel-sheets on it. [14:48:16] Olle E. Johansson, Sollentuna, Sweden (GMT+1 DST) joins the room [14:49:33] Olle E. 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