- Tuesday, November 11, 2014

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[23:03:22] Dan York has set the subject to: DPRIVE at IETF91
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[23:03:59] <Dan York> I can jabber-scribe
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[23:04:06] <sftcd x> thanks dan
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[23:04:13] <Dan York> Do we have people remote?
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[23:04:27] <Dan York> Gret
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[23:04:30] <Dave Crocker> Yes.  Audio is tending to be choppy.  Hasn't happed in other sessions, so far.
[23:04:31] <Dan York> Great, even
[23:04:48] <sftcd x> same as Dave wrt audio for me too
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[23:05:12] <Dave Crocker> (BTW, Dan, I switched to Opera and got to watch the rest of the ISOC session.)
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[23:05:45] <Dan York> Agenda: http://tools.ietf.org/wg/dprive/agenda?item=agenda-91-dprive.html
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[23:06:02] <Dan York> Materials: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/91/materials.html#wg-dprive
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[23:06:15] <Dan York> Slides - http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/91/slides/slides-91-dprive-4.pdf
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[23:06:34] <Dan York> On slide 5, Before We Begin
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[23:07:23] <Dan York> Slide 6 - two assumptions
[23:07:42] <Dan York> If you have something you want relayed, please preface with "MIC:"
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[23:08:00] <Dan York> Wes Hardaker at mic
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[23:08:09] <Dan York> Wes disagrees with the first assumption
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[23:08:40] <Andrew Sullivan> I worry about both of these, actually, since while I agree the perfect is the enemy of the good, "a little bit good" might not be good enough
[23:08:42] <sftcd x> wes' mic doesn't have the same choppiness maybe (not 100% sure as they're both talking)
[23:08:45] <Dan York> PHB at mic
[23:08:54] <Andrew Sullivan> (not for mic, just an observation)
[23:08:55] <Olafur> +1 to PHB
[23:09:03] <Dan York> Slide 7 - we aren't boiling the ocean
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[23:09:12] <Dan York> Slide 7 - we aren't doing DNS 2.0
[23:09:16] <Dan York> (how about 3.0?)
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[23:09:47] <Dan York> Slides: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/91/slides/slides-91-dprive-1.pdf
[23:09:58] <Dan York> Stephane Bortzmeyer speaking
[23:10:10] <sftcd x> stephane's mic also choppy didn't see if that's the one warren used
[23:10:14] <Dan York> Slide 2
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[23:11:29] <Dan York> Audio's a bit choppy in the room.  He's overdriiving the mic a bit.  I think the A/V teams optimized the mic for the (incorrect) way most people use it.  Stephane is holding it quite close as he should.
[23:11:38] <sftcd x> it is better now
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[23:13:01] <Dan York> Slide 3
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[23:14:36] <doug.otis> Privacy should be called confidentiality.
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[23:15:16] <Dan York> Paul Hoffman at mic
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[23:16:52] <Dan York> Allison Mankin at mic
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[23:22:42] <Dan York> Mic queue was Paul Hoffman, me and Charlie ___ (from Microsoft)
[23:22:48] <Dan York> EKR is at mic right now
[23:23:06] <Dan York> (as if you remote folks had any doubt :-) )
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[23:23:26] <Hosnieh R.> thanks :)
[23:25:37] <sftcd x> I wil review too
[23:26:17] <Hosnieh R.> Is there problem with audio, my audio on my computer is maximum but still I have a hardtime to hearing people
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[23:26:33] <Dan York> Allison Mankin now speaking
[23:26:47] <Dan York> Slides: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/91/slides/slides-91-dprive-3.pdf
[23:26:49] <sftcd x> and parts of her are even visible in video:-)
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[23:28:57] <Dan York> sftcd x:  and Dave Crocker -  how is the audio?    Hosnieh is saying it is low for her.
[23:29:11] <Dan York> Hosnieh - if it continues to be low, I would email the NOC at tickets@meeting.ietf.org
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[23:29:18] <sftcd x> audio fine right now
[23:29:35] <Hosnieh R.> I am in meetecho. the previous session was really loud but this one
[23:29:42] <Hosnieh R.> is really low...
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[23:30:41] <Hosnieh R.> thanks Dan
[23:30:50] <sftcd x> not sure myself, i'm on earbuds now, was on speakers last one
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[23:32:45] <Hosnieh R.> is everyone also has the slides?
[23:32:54] <tjw.ietf> `They should all be uploaded
[23:32:57] <Hosnieh R.> it appears that myside the slide is also frozen
[23:33:10] <sftcd x> slides at https://tools.ietf.org/wg/dprive/agenda?item=agenda-91-dprive.html aren't they?
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[23:33:15] <tjw.ietf> Were as of this morning.
[23:33:39] <sftcd x> artefacts is not a mis-spelling :-)
[23:34:19] <Hosnieh R.> ok I will reenter to the room.. :|
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[23:34:29] <Andrew Sullivan> indeed, I was thinking the same thing
[23:35:11] <tjw.ietf> I assume the [sic] was for the American grammarians
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[23:35:16] <Dan York> Slides are at http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/91/slides/slides-91-dprive-3.pdf
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[23:35:26] <Dan York> She's on slide 10
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[23:41:34] <Dan York> EKR at mic
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[23:45:31] <sftcd x> mic: will the draft try cover traffic analysis of ciphertext emitted from stub? e.g. if I load a web page ,then the pattern and timing of messages emitted by stub could identify the page
[23:45:58] <Kathleen Moriarty> dan is in line
[23:46:04] <sftcd x> ta
[23:46:14] <Dan York> ?? at mic
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[23:46:24] <sftcd x> juan carlos zuniga
[23:46:41] <sftcd x> nah that was juan carlos before me, I'm stephen farrell:-)
[23:47:01] <sftcd x> answer inaudible
[23:47:06] <sftcd x> cool
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[23:47:07] <Ted.h> answer: yes
[23:47:25] <Dan York> sftcd x: there you go completely confusing me! :-)
[23:47:37] <Dan York> But thank you for supplying the name.
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[23:48:02] <Dan York> Stephane Bortzmeyer at mic
[23:48:40] <Dan York> PHB is up next with "Private DNS" - http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/91/slides/slides-91-dprive-2.pdf
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[23:52:29] <sftcd x> sorry dan
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[23:56:00] <Dan York> sftcd x: No worries!  I was amused to be confused. :-)
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[23:57:22] <bortzmeyer> Alice: "him" ? Gender issue? :-)
[23:57:29] <Dan York> EKR at mic
[23:57:39] <Dan York> bortzmeyer: :-)
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