dbound - Monday, July 20, 2015

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DanYork has set the subject to: DBOUND Bof IETF91

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[15:24:24] DanYork has set the subject to: DBOUND WG at IETF93
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[15:42:54] <DanYork> I can help with Jabber-scribing
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[15:46:55] <Samuel Weiler> Remote participants: please let us know what level of detail you need/want.
[15:47:18] <DanYork> Kurt Anderson at mic
[15:47:55] <DanYork> Andrew Sullivan at mic
[15:47:55] <John Levine> It's pretty close to the DMARC question
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[15:48:28] <Barry Leiba> Almost a nice paralipsis.
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[15:48:45] <DanYork> Dave Crocker at mic
[15:49:50] <Kurt> John - that's what I think -
[15:50:24] <Kurt> in some ways it is, as Andrew said, finding something out about what "control" means for two domains that are "under the same control"
[15:50:48] <DanYork> Andrew Sullivan at mic
[15:50:52] <DanYork> (presenting)
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[15:52:02] <DanYork> Slides: https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/93/slides/slides-93-dbound-1.pdf
[15:53:09] <DanYork> Dave Crocker at mi
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[16:00:42] <DanYork> "there's a guy updating a list"
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[16:02:37] <Samuel Weiler> Kurt Anderson again
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[16:05:16] <DanYork> If anyone remote wants something relayed, please preface it with "mic:" ... and one of us will try to get a handheld mic. :-)
[16:05:42] <DanYork> Dave Crocker at mic
[16:06:37] <DanYork> Stephane Bortzmeyer
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[16:07:50] <DanYork> "service discovery has this urge..."
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[16:08:26] <DanYork> Dave Lawrence at mic
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[16:11:47] <DanYork> (a collective intake of breath in the DBOUND room at the mention of DNAME!)
[16:12:04] <DanYork> Peter Koch at mic
[16:12:05] <Suz> yep, most of the DNS people whimpering.
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[16:17:53] <DanYork> Adam Roach is the one at the mic
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[16:20:32] <Samuel Weiler> lots of hums for "need to address"; some hums for "bad to address".
[16:21:02] <DanYork> dkg at mic
[16:21:08] <DanYork> Daniel Kahn Gillmor
[16:22:03] <DanYork> (several verbal statements of support for what dkg said)
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[16:22:09] <Russ Mundy> when you do 'Hum' questions, could they be a little slower and more distinct in time?
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[16:22:23] <Russ Mundy> for us "remotees"
[16:22:24] <DanYork> Russ - sorry about that
[16:22:48] <DanYork> dkg back at mic
[16:23:18] <DanYork> Russ - it's a bit fast and furious here in terms of discussion... but you're right, we need to bring hums into here
[16:24:25] <RussMundy> thanks Dan
[16:24:43] <resnick> Russ: I did want to just get a quick sense of where the room was. But point taken.
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[16:25:58] <DanYork> ?? at mic?
[16:26:12] <resnick> Wolfgang Reidel (sp?)
[16:26:55] <DanYork> Thanks... directory says Wolfgang Riedel.
[16:27:04] <Yoshiro Yoneya> variant labels are one example which requires non-hierarchical relations.
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[16:36:09] <John Levine> mic: not same as DMARC, you're only looking at one name and you want to know if it's "the same" as all subnames. DMARC looks in the other direction
[16:37:02] <resnick> We’ve passed DMARC already. Let’s post that to the list instead.
[16:37:13] <Kurt> john: so you don't think that the signing question does not devolve to "what's the org domain"?
[16:37:14] <John Levine> this is about certs
[16:37:23] <resnick> Ah.
[16:37:40] <John Levine> I'm largely agreeing with Ted? who's speaking
[16:37:51] <resnick> (And sorry, I’m on a crappy client and don’t see names in the chat room. Who is this?)
[16:37:56] <John Levine> what he jiust said
[16:38:02] <John Levine> "everything under foo.example"
[16:38:08] <John Levine> John L
[16:38:14] <Kurt> resnick: that was me - Kurt
[16:38:15] <resnick> OK, so do you still want to mic, or already said?
[16:38:31] <John Levine> given limited time, never mind
[16:38:34] <resnick> Thx.
[16:38:44] <Samuel Weiler> Peter Koch.
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[16:40:06] <Kurt> resnick: I'll work on the wiki, but found that dbound is only partially built on ietf tools page
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