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[18:47:02] <Bill Silverajan_web_193> Is the document available at codimd available already for editing?
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[18:48:02] <Bill Silverajan_web_193> I keep getting a dialog box popping up each time I click on it in meetecho prompting me to refresh the page, nonstop.
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[18:48:59] <Bill Silverajan_web_193> So I'll do the logical thing and open the document in a new tab, outside meetecho.. and that appears to work!
[18:49:37] <Meetecho> Bill: are you in a private/incognito window?
[18:49:44] <francesca> works for me
[18:50:02] <francesca> (not in incognito mode)
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[18:50:43] <Bill Silverajan_web_193> No not in incognito
[18:51:23] <Bill Silverajan_web_193> It works as a separate window, but trying to enter by clicking in "Note Taking Tool" in meetecho is problematic for me
[18:51:52] <Meetecho> Mh weird, AFAIK that's the only thing that breaks the codimd integration: maybe some extension enforcing stricted limitations on cookies?
[18:51:59] <Meetecho> *stricter
[18:52:59] <Bill Silverajan_web_193> (My config is Version 91.0.4472.164 (Official Build) (x86_64) in Mac OS Catalina
[18:53:11] <Bill Silverajan_web_193> and that should be Chrome..
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[18:54:17] <Bill Silverajan_web_193> Thanks folks, but I'll use a separate window/desktop to keep track of the notes
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[19:00:52] <Bill Silverajan_web_193> I certainly hope there would be more minute takers than myself :)
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[19:01:33] <Jaime Jimenez_web_955> We are looking forward for a second minute taking volunteer pls.
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[19:02:34] <Bill Silverajan_web_193> (as I'm just on 1 laptop without external monitors and switching between desktops between meetecho and the notes)
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[19:04:03] <chrysn> i can help
[19:04:06] <Göran Selander_web_746> I can help
[19:04:10] <Bill Silverajan_web_193> Thanks
[19:04:16] <Jaime Jimenez_web_955> thanks!
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[19:18:24] <Thomas Fossati_web_942> Mic: Carsten, can you tell more about what is the use case for parsing domain name labels?
[19:21:55] <Thomas Fossati_web_942> thanks
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[19:35:39] <cabo> The scheme is one variable, the IP address is another
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[19:40:50] <Brendan Moran_web_113> Under what circumstances does my IoT device need to care about the elements of a domain name? Isn't that the DNS's problem?
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[19:42:58] <Brendan Moran_web_113> ^= previous question is regarding the href draft.
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[19:46:55] <cabo> Brendan: That depends a lot on the document that contains the URI.  This isn't all about CoAP, there may be other kinds of URI where the client needs to perform some "arithmetic" on the reg-name in the authority.
[19:47:54] <cabo> s/URI/CRI/g
[19:48:18] <Brendan Moran_web_113> Carsten: That's an interesting assertion. Can you give me an example of an application that requires this?
[19:48:30] <cabo> No, but Henk can :-)
[19:48:57] <Brendan Moran_web_113> Excellent. I'll ask him.
[19:50:27] <cabo> Brian Carpenter (in ANIMA): DNS-SD is a mess
[19:58:36] <cabo> NOTHING can go into ERT, this needs to SHIP
[19:59:15] <Christian Amsüss_web_745> cabo: draft published, AD waiting for reviewers to ACK
[20:01:02] <Christian Amsüss_web_745> (so I agree also with JPM that this has effectively sailed)
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[20:07:00] <cabo> Solutions include: Use ECHO, Use BLOCK2
[20:08:28] <Jaime Jimenez_web_955> @cabo I meant that these are issues all UDP-based protocols face.
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[20:09:00] <cabo> Yes, so each UDP-based protocol needs a solution.  QUIC has a really nice one, because they can.
[20:09:10] <cabo> Ours will be a bit more messy.
[20:16:09] <cabo> (It also turns out that often the protocol doesn't have the problem, but the implementation has.  NTP is so useful for DDoS because of implementation-specific extensions.)
[20:16:38] <Christian Amsüss_web_745> +1 on explicitly stating goals for forward/backward.
[20:17:00] <Christian Amsüss_web_745> (And I was just about to type "it's messy" when John said "it's a mess")
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[20:45:51] <cabo> What is "Christian's separate proposal"?
[20:46:22] <Christian Amsüss_web_745> That was about expressing Uri-Path: .well-known/core in a single option
[20:46:23] <cabo> OK, just send pointer in chat
[20:46:25] <cabo> OK
[20:47:28] <Christian Amsüss_web_745> (single one-byte; no draft yet but will called common-option-compression, was presented in the 2021-05-12 core interim)
[20:47:56] <cabo> Thanks, wasn't clear to me that this was what
[20:47:59] <cabo> that
[20:48:41] <Marco Tiloca_web_905> @Carsten: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2021-core-05/materials/slides-interim-2021-core-05-sessa-core-option-for-well-known-resources-00
[20:49:58] <cabo> Thank you!
[20:53:42] <Christian Amsüss_web_745> mhm, gotta read that update method (didn't get that far), the properties list sounds delicious
[20:54:04] <Göran Selander_web_424> Looks good!
[20:55:10] <John Preuß Mattsson_web_597> I agree. looks good.
[21:00:00] <cabo> 2021-09-15 16:00 - 17:30
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[21:01:20] <francesca> THanks Marco and Jaime
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[21:01:24] <francesca> and thanks the minute takers :)
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