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[07:10:10] Maybe 50 [07:10:24] ietfdbh joins the room [07:10:31] Scattered about a big two-story auditorium [07:10:45] tx [07:10:56] The Problem [07:12:41] Leslie Daigle joins the room [07:13:16] Lars joins the room [07:13:51] Is audio still muffled? [07:14:08] jpmacker leaves the room [07:14:42] yes, a bit... [07:14:54] shep joins the room [07:14:54] or for me in UK anyway... [07:14:56] jpmacker joins the room [07:15:29] I can understand it fine tho' [07:17:24] room mic is clearer! [07:17:41] wolfgang.beck01 joins the room [07:18:20] mccap joins the room [07:19:02] The Problem continued (chart 5) [07:21:18] zhen.tsao joins the room [07:21:49] this may be bob's clearest presentation on this topic ever [07:22:00] :-D [07:22:11] we wrote teh slides for him... [07:22:16] i figured :-) [07:22:31] now I wish I was in that room :) unfortunately muti-tasking two sessions now [07:23:13] Matt.Mathis joins the room [07:24:29] thomas.dreibholz joins the room [07:24:43] Chart 6 showing [07:26:36] Chart 7 showing [07:28:27] florin coras joins the room [07:29:19] Chart 8 showing [07:29:47] I haven't seen the blue sheets [07:32:10] Chart 9 showing [07:33:26] Bob Briscoe speaking, first presentation "Uses" [07:33:35] Chart 10 showing [07:34:52] kongyong1 joins the room [07:36:00] Chart 11 [07:36:03] in response to that question - ECN would be better, but we might be able to use loss as well [07:38:12] who is this talking? [07:39:14] Zhu Lei [07:40:03] Chart 12 Traffic Management [07:43:09] Chart 13 [07:44:21] Chart 14 [07:45:21] hiromi.morita joins the room [07:46:10] chris joins the room [07:46:37] kongyong1 leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [07:46:38] kongyong1 joins the room [07:46:55] Back to chart 13 [07:47:03] Chart 14 again [07:47:13] Now chart 15 [07:47:13] kongyong1 leaves the room [07:47:27] kongyong1 joins the room [07:48:24] jpmacker leaves the room [07:49:27] Chart 16 showing [07:49:58] Chart 17 [07:50:18] hiromi.morita leaves the room [07:52:46] Chart 18 [07:53:31] Varun Singh leaves the room [07:53:44] Chart 17 showing [07:54:09] abegen@cisco.com joins the room [07:54:35] Varun Singh joins the room [08:01:01] Haibin joins the room [08:01:03] Chart 10 showing [08:01:30] Haibin leaves the room [08:02:00] Haibin joins the room [08:03:51] clarifying -- the lines are cut for discussing the list of scenarios, not the document, right? [08:04:14] leslie: not sure [08:04:40] well, I stayed OUT of the line because I wanted to respect the chairs' discussion plan... [08:04:50] (I.e., I want to speak to the latter point) [08:05:11] get in line and see what happens? :-) [08:05:13] Leslie Daigle peers at chairs [08:05:16] Should I go to the mike to sort this out? [08:08:24] Have to change batteries. Back in a moment. Wish they would give us power. [08:08:39] tomtaylor leaves the room [08:10:41] tomtaylor joins the room [08:13:41] Bob steps down [08:14:12] tom: there is power in the front of the room [08:14:39] Page 3 showing [08:14:47] kongyong1 leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [08:14:52] confidential slides? [08:15:00] I'll move down a few rows [08:15:02] these slides should not have logos -- and the confidentiality statement is in contracdiction [08:15:32] with Note Well. Chairs should get that removed for the proceedings [08:15:45] agree [08:17:12] I'll pass the message to Huawei at large, as best I can. This is the second time I've seen that mistake [08:17:23] thanks, tom [08:17:27] bob.briscoe joins the room [08:17:56] (i actually personally don't mind the logo. it's the confidentiality statement that is the issue) [08:20:59] yeah, people use their company emails so np with the logo at all. [08:21:30] ECN stats from my server: [08:21:31] [root@fit: ~] netstat -s | grep -i ecn 0 packets with ECN CE bit set 872100 packets with ECN ECT(0) bit set 0 packets with ECN ECT(1) bit set 46913 successful ECN handshakes 0 times ECN reduced the congestion window 0 input ECNE chunks 0 output ECNE chunks 0 times a ECN reduced the cwnd [08:23:24] Varun Singh leaves the room [08:24:39] gorryf leaves the room [08:27:40] Page 10 showing [08:27:55] Oops -- new speaker [08:28:41] Mirja Kuhlewind [08:28:48] Outline, page 2 [08:29:19] Page 3 [08:29:54] bob.briscoe leaves the room [08:31:09] gorryf joins the room [08:31:43] bob.briscoe joins the room [08:31:47] Page 4 [08:32:00] FWIW: Recently ECN syncookie support was added to the Linux kernel [08:33:17] was tehat a question? If so could they go to the mic [08:33:20] Chart 5 [08:33:33] *that [08:33:42] Not a question, me rep[eating Jabber [08:33:49] OK! [08:34:47] Chart 6 [08:35:19] Chart 7 [08:35:45] Chart 8 [08:35:50] Chart 9 [08:36:28] Chart 10 [08:37:29] Chart 11 [08:37:51] (Q. re chart 10) [08:38:31] Chart 12 [08:39:28] Chart 13 [08:41:25] Chart 15 - sorry [08:41:30] Now chart 16 [08:42:16] Chart 17 [08:43:17] Chart 19 [08:43:28] Chart 20 [08:43:37] 21 [08:44:10] 22 [08:44:23] 23 [08:44:44] Varun Singh joins the room [08:45:01] 24 [08:45:27] 25 [08:52:40] Next: Abstract encoding for Conex [08:52:53] "We already have a morass" [08:53:29] "We need to simplify" [08:54:22] "Congestion Exposure assumptions" [08:54:30] spadgett leaves the room [08:54:47] "Model assumptions" [08:55:11] spadgett joins the room [08:56:07] "Basic signals and functional units" (figure) [08:57:39] "Loss" [08:58:10] Flipped past to "GREEN" [08:58:23] Now "BLACK.ECN" [08:59:13] "GREEN" [08:59:47] "Usdeful (mid path) observations" [09:03:29] gigix73 joins the room [09:04:28] The [09:04:44] "The Encoding Problem" [09:05:22] Skipped to "Useful deployment observations" [09:06:08] "Conclusion" [09:09:00] bob.briscoe leaves the room [09:11:49] gigix73 leaves the room [09:11:53] mccap leaves the room: Computer went to sleep [09:12:05] Nandita Dukkipati leaves the room [09:12:21] Varun Singh leaves the room [09:12:32] Toby M leaves the room: I'm happy Miranda IM user. Get it at http://miranda-im.org/. 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