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[01:37:23] <Robert Hansen> I've reviewed it before; can review it again now it's been revised
[01:37:44] <Shida> THX! Rob!
[01:38:35] <Shida> Roni will present on behalf of Rob :)
[01:38:50] <Paul Kyzivat> Re protocol: I will certainly review it again. But having done some several times, I'm may well miss stuff. Would be good to have some fresh eyes on it.
[01:43:14] <Mark Duckworth_5756> I agree with Roni.
[01:43:46] <Robert Hansen> lower-case 'must' in document was a mistake; that was supposed to be normative
[01:44:00] <Robert Hansen> though happy to align it with framework document
[01:45:28] <Robert Hansen> We've changed the signaling security requirements a few time; the text in it was discussed at IETF and on the list and I believed it was the agreed way forward
[01:46:50] <Mark Duckworth_5756> I'll wait for Roni's email on the list, because now I'm confused again.
[01:47:43] <Shida> So based on my understanding, what's in the signaling should be reflected in the framework document.
[01:56:36] <Paul Kyzivat> mic: perc assumes the use of an untrusted switching MCU (no mixing/composition) in a conference. Will there be practical clue conferences that fit with that assumption?
[01:58:00] <Mark Duckworth_5756> Yes, we have talked about that before, and gone over examples where switching MCU does not do composition, while receiving endpoints can do composition themselves if they want.
[01:58:30] <Paul Kyzivat> mic: If so, we need to understand how that architecture works with clue. Where does the MCU for the clue protocol messages live?
[02:04:32] <Paul Kyzivat> mic: I think we will at least need another document to specify how clue can be used with perc. Not clear if it will require normative changes to clue. Do we want the clue WG to stick around to work on that?
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