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[19:17:51] Lorenzo Miniero joins the room
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[19:22:25] <Simon Romano> Special thanks to Jonathan!
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[19:22:47] <Lorenzo Miniero> For remote attendees, a Meetecho room is available here: http://www.meetecho.com/ietf88/clue
[19:23:03] Jonathan Lennox joins the room
[19:23:12] <Jonathan Lennox> I am Jabber scribe.\
[19:23:31] <Simon Romano> ...as usual ;-)
[19:23:37] <Jonathan Lennox> Is anyone remote?
[19:24:04] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1: CLUE Framework
[19:24:07] <jlcJohn> several...
[19:24:08] <Lorenzo Miniero> Current presenter: Mark Duckworth
[19:24:09] <Simon Romano> I am.
[19:24:09] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1: CLUE Framework
[19:24:11] <Jonathan Lennox> Ok.
[19:24:23] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 2: Framework Agenda
[19:25:02] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 3: Changes in -12 version
[19:25:51] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 4: Multiple Content Capture (MCC)
[19:25:52] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 3: Changes in -12 version
[19:26:22] <Jonathan Lennox> Stephan Wenger at the mic
[19:27:06] Tobia Castaldi joins the room
[19:28:33] <Jonathan Lennox> Stephan Wenger at the mic
[19:30:08] Michal Wodczak joins the room
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[19:31:44] <Jonathan Lennox> Keith Drage at the mic
[19:33:45] <Jonathan Lennox> Martin Thomson at the mic
[19:34:20] <Jonathan Lennox> Stephan Wenger at the mic
[19:35:02] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 4: Multiple Content Capture (MCC)
[19:36:27] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 5: MCC Summary
[19:38:49] <Jonathan Lennox> Me at the mic
[19:38:52] <Jonathan Lennox> Rob Hansen at the mic
[19:39:48] Michal Wodczak leaves the room
[19:41:04] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 6: MCC proposal 1
[19:41:07] <Jonathan Lennox> Me and Rob Hansen again
[19:42:25] Michal Wodczak joins the room
[19:42:31] <Jonathan Lennox> Christer Holmberg at the mic
[19:43:34] Michal Wodczak leaves the room
[19:44:26] <Jonathan Lennox> Keith Drage at the mic
[19:45:37] <Jonathan Lennox> Paul Kyzviat at the mic
[19:45:58] <Jonathan Lennox> Christer at the mic
[19:47:17] <Jonathan Lennox> Rob Hansen at the mic
[19:48:58] <Jonathan Lennox> Me, Rob Hansen
[19:50:49] <Jonathan Lennox> Christer Holmberg at the mic
[19:52:25] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 7: MCC proposal 2
[19:52:32] <Jonathan Lennox> Me at the mic
[19:55:03] <Jonathan Lennox> Rob Hansen at the mic
[19:55:10] Michal Wodczak joins the room
[19:55:38] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 8: MCC proposal 3
[19:58:50] <Jonathan Lennox> Me at the mic, Rob Hansen at the mic
[19:59:28] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 9: MCC example – Switched Captures
[20:00:54] Michal Wodczak leaves the room
[20:05:12] <Jonathan Lennox> Me, Paul Kyzviat from the "floor"
[20:05:17] <Jonathan Lennox> Rob Hansen at the mic
[20:06:06] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 10: MCC Issues
[20:06:42] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 11: MCC Next Steps
[20:08:18] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 12: Switched Capture Example
[20:08:45] <Jonathan Lennox> Anyone remote want to vote? (Unanimous here).
[20:08:52] <Jonathan Lennox> Not "vote", of course.
[20:09:02] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 11: MCC Next Steps
[20:10:41] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 12: Switched Capture Example
[20:11:33] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 13: Example Video Layout
[20:12:05] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 14: Switching Mixer Diagram
[20:12:10] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 13: Example Video Layout
[20:13:50] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 14: Switching Mixer Diagram
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[20:14:49] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 15: Different Approaches
[20:15:25] Paolo Saviano joins the room
[20:16:13] <Jonathan Lennox> Roni Even at the mic
[20:19:07] <Jonathan Lennox> Me at the mic
[20:20:55] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 16: Approach 1 – Advertisement to A
[20:24:24] <Jonathan Lennox> Me at the mic
[20:25:34] <Jonathan Lennox> Rob Hansen at the mic
[20:26:30] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 13: Example Video Layout
[20:27:52] <Lorenzo Miniero> Jonathan Lennox at the mic
[20:29:04] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 16: Approach 1 – Advertisement to A
[20:29:14] <Lorenzo Miniero> Roni Even at the mic
[20:29:15] <Jonathan Lennox> Roni Even at the mic
[20:34:29] <Jonathan Lennox> Roni Even at the mic
[20:34:52] <Jonathan Lennox> Rob Hansen at the mic
[20:38:07] <Jonathan Lennox> Me at the mic
[20:38:14] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 20: Role Attribute
[20:40:36] <Jonathan Lennox> Roni Even at the mic
[20:40:40] <Jonathan Lennox> Stephan Wenger off-mic
[20:40:53] <Jonathan Lennox> Roni still at the mic
[20:41:49] <Jonathan Lennox> Rob Hansen at the mic
[20:43:45] <Jonathan Lennox> Me at the mic
[20:43:45] <Jonathan Lennox> Roni Even at the mic
[20:44:50] Lorenzo joins the room
[20:46:01] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 21: #33 security
[20:46:56] <Lorenzo Miniero> Presentation stopped
[20:47:07] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1: Strawman proposal for expressing encodin
[20:47:16] <Lorenzo Miniero> Current presenter: Robert Hansen
[20:47:19] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1: Strawman proposal for expressing encodin
[20:47:43] Lorenzo leaves the room
[20:47:59] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 2: Offer SDP and Advertisment
[20:48:51] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 3: Aim
[20:49:55] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 4: Proposal
[20:51:52] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 5: Example #1
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[20:52:06] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 6: Example #1
[20:52:14] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 7: Example #1
[20:52:29] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 8: Example #1
[20:52:44] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 9: Example #2
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[20:53:16] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 10: Determination
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[20:58:22] <Lorenzo Miniero> Christer and Jonathan in line at the mic
[20:58:39] <Lorenzo Miniero> Christer speaking
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[21:01:09] Paolo Saviano joins the room
[21:02:19] <Jonathan Lennox> Me at the mic, Richard Eyjak as if from the mic
[21:02:41] <Simon Romano> MIKE!
[21:03:04] <Jonathan Lennox> I was just asking Magnus not to leave the room before he's discussed simulcast
[21:03:05] Paolo Saviano leaves the room
[21:03:26] <Jonathan Lennox> Christer Holmberg at the mic
[21:03:27] <Simon Romano> hanx ;-)
[21:03:33] <Simon Romano> Thanx ;-)
[21:05:24] <Jonathan Lennox> Magnus Westerlund at the mic
[21:06:00] <Jonathan Lennox> Roni Even at the mic
[21:07:11] <Jonathan Lennox> Me, Magnus at the mic
[21:08:10] <Jonathan Lennox> Roni Even at the mic
[21:08:18] Paolo Saviano joins the room
[21:08:31] <Jonathan Lennox> Christer Holmberg at the mic
[21:10:04] <Simon Romano> Just in case...Me humming for the CLUE-enabled approach: HUMMMM
[21:10:39] <Jonathan Lennox> Christer Holmberg at the mic
[21:10:41] <Jonathan Lennox> Rob Hansen at the mic
[21:11:18] <Jonathan Lennox> Simon: hum on ready to make a decision
[21:11:23] <Jonathan Lennox> ?
[21:11:42] <Simon Romano> I'm ready to explore the CLUE-enabled option...
[21:11:50] <Jonathan Lennox> It was a clearly stronger hum against making a decision in the room
[21:12:14] <Jonathan Lennox> Explore == not decide, I think.
[21:12:15] <Simon Romano> Yep, I heard it.
[21:12:33] <Simon Romano> I would say explore == not ready, as of yet
[21:12:46] <Simon Romano> So, we basically agree.
[21:13:01] <Jonathan Lennox> Roni Even at the mic
[21:13:06] <Simon Romano> I think we all have to think a bot more deeply about this issue.
[21:13:22] <Simon Romano> bot = bit
[21:13:49] <Simon Romano> Thanks, Jonathan
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[21:13:54] <Lorenzo Miniero> Presentation stopped
[21:14:03] <Simon Romano> Scribe & relay is far from easy...
[21:14:06] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 5: Way Forward
[21:14:10] <Lorenzo Miniero> Current presenter: Chairs
[21:14:11] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 5: Way Forward
[21:14:34] <Jonathan Lennox> Simon: it's better than notetaker. :-)
[21:14:54] <Simon Romano> Definitely!
[21:15:02] <Lorenzo Miniero> and you get the hat! (at least usually, not today)
[21:15:06] <Jonathan Lennox> Rob Hansen at the mic
[21:15:48] <Jonathan Lennox> Christer Holmberg at the mic
[21:16:24] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 6: •
[21:16:37] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 6: Proposed way forward
[21:17:30] <Jonathan Lennox> Christer Holmberg at the mic
[21:19:18] <Jonathan Lennox> Keith Drage at the mic
[21:21:56] <Simon Romano> Napoli!
[21:22:03] <Simon Romano> Siete ospiti miei...
[21:22:12] <Jonathan Lennox> Can you host?
[21:22:17] <Simon Romano> Sure!
[21:22:25] <Simon Romano> Pizza included...
[21:22:36] <Simon Romano> ...instead of IETF cookies.
[21:22:59] <Simon Romano> And also mandolino & mozzarella for everybody
[21:23:24] <Tobia Castaldi> :)
[21:23:31] <Jonathan Lennox> Do you want me to actually say that at the mic?
[21:23:42] <Simon Romano> Why not!
[21:23:47] <Alessandro Amirante> I would say NO...!
[21:23:55] <Simon Romano> But you have to read the entire chat sequence :-)
[21:25:21] <Simon Romano> Napoli is South coast of Europe.
[21:25:25] Paolo Saviano joins the room
[21:25:34] <Alessandro Amirante> Very good pronunciation, Jonathan!
[21:25:48] <Simon Romano> U great, Jonathan!
[21:28:45] Paolo Saviano leaves the room
[21:29:35] <Jonathan Lennox> Keith Drage at the mic
[21:30:14] <Lorenzo Miniero> Presentation stopped
[21:30:19] Alessandro Amirante leaves the room
[21:30:28] <Simon Romano> Thank you, guys! A fruitful week, even for the remotes :-)
[21:30:37] <Lorenzo Miniero> IETF's over!
[21:30:42] Jonathan Lennox leaves the room
[21:30:50] <Lorenzo Miniero> as usual, recordings of this sessions will be made available in a short while
[21:30:54] <Lorenzo Miniero> see you all in London!
[21:30:57] <Simon Romano> Hey you, Meetecho team! Come back home now!
[21:30:57] <jlcJohn> :-)
[21:31:05] <Simon Romano> This house is waiting for you!
[21:31:27] <Simon Romano> Ciao Toby!
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[21:31:35] <Tobia Castaldi> ;)
[21:31:38] <Tobia Castaldi> ciao!!!
[21:31:48] Simon Romano leaves the room
[21:32:06] <Tobia Castaldi> this session is over
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