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Tuesday, 27 March 2012< ^ >
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[06:51:29] Lorenzo Miniero joins the room
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[07:05:39] <Lorenzo Miniero> FYI, a Meetecho session is avilable at http://www.meetecho.com/ietf83/clue
[07:05:55] <Lorenzo Miniero> just remember to use a different nickname if you're already in with your jabber client as well
[07:06:56] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1: CLUE Framework
[07:07:28] <jlcJohn> (meetecho times out for me)
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[07:07:43] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 2: Agenda
[07:08:02] Alessandro Amirante joins the room
[07:08:06] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 3: Changes since interim meeting
[07:08:20] <Lorenzo Miniero> what does, John, the first page alòready or later on?
[07:09:05] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 4: Changes since interim meeting
[07:09:24] <jlcJohn> Lorenzo: the amazon1.conf.meetecho.com page times out in Chrome
[07:09:40] <Lorenzo Miniero> it's a different server actually
[07:10:00] <Lorenzo Miniero> http://srv137.conf.meetecho.com/WebLite/login.jsp?ietf=clue
[07:10:13] <Lorenzo Miniero> let me know if that works
[07:10:35] <burn> I volunteered to be jabber relay but had to leave for a bit. Did someone else volunteer while I was gone?
[07:10:37] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 5: Framework structure – Captures
[07:11:06] <jlcJohn> Lorenzo: srv137 appears to work...
[07:11:22] <Lorenzo Miniero> ok :)
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[07:13:23] <burn> silence must mean I am still the jabber relay. If anyone remote wants me to relay a comment to the mic, please prefix your comment with "mic:"
[07:14:35] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 6: Framework Structure – Encoding Groups
[07:15:15] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 7: Framework Structure Summary
[07:15:24] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 8: Simultaneous set representation
[07:15:31] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 7: Framework Structure Summary
[07:15:32] <burn> Roni Even at mic
[07:15:54] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 6: Framework Structure – Encoding Groups
[07:15:55] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 5: Framework structure – Captures
[07:17:44] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 6: Framework Structure – Encoding Groups
[07:17:45] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 7: Framework Structure Summary
[07:17:57] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 8: Simultaneous set representation
[07:19:34] <burn> Roni Even still at mic
[07:20:26] <burn> Jonathan Lennox at mic
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[07:21:37] <burn> ?? at mic
[07:22:26] <burn> Roni Even at mic
[07:23:12] <burn> Brian at mic
[07:23:46] <burn> Roni Even at mic
[07:24:11] <burn> Allyn Romanow at mic
[07:24:13] <burn> I think
[07:25:16] Gonzalo leaves the room
[07:25:28] <burn> Roni Even at mic
[07:25:57] <burn> Allyn back at mic
[07:26:15] Dan Burnett joins the room
[07:26:43] <burn> Roni and Allyn taking turns at the mic :)
[07:28:09] <burn> Roni Even back up at mic
[07:28:24] <burn> Dave Oran at mic
[07:29:13] <burn> Others from the room stating it's not equivalent
[07:29:20] <burn> Roni Even at mic
[07:29:56] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 9: Ticket #7
[07:29:57] <burn> Dave Oran was in there briefly again
[07:30:15] <burn> Allyn Romanow at mic
[07:31:46] <burn> Roni talking from the room
[07:32:11] <burn> Roni Even at mic
[07:32:21] <jlcJohn> Is it possible to think in terms of which representation is less _confusing_?
[07:32:44] <burn> for the mic?
[07:33:12] <jlcJohn> no thanks...
[07:33:14] <burn> we seem to be moving on, but I can relay if you want, jlcjohn
[07:33:16] <burn> okay
[07:33:54] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 10: Clarify when to use “composed=true”
[07:33:58] <speak_now> @burn thanks for putting in the names, but if someone can remind the mic folks to say there names, that will be better for those listening to the recording.
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[07:36:17] <burn> Roni Even at mic
[07:36:42] <burn> speak_now: I agree that folks need to say their names in addition to me typing them
[07:37:04] <burn> Jonathan Lennox at mic
[07:38:09] <burn> Robert Hennison (??) at mic
[07:38:22] <burn> Roni talking from the room again
[07:38:27] <burn> Dave Oran at mic
[07:40:01] <burn> Paul Kyzivat from the front
[07:40:40] <speak_now> He said "I'm in line", so I think he's wearing personal hat
[07:40:53] <burn> speak_now: yes
[07:41:02] <burn> Charles Eckel at mic
[07:41:56] <burn> Steve Botzko at mic
[07:43:07] <burn> Roni Even from the room again
[07:43:15] <burn> Jonathan Lennox at mic
[07:43:36] <burn> Charles Eckel at mic
[07:44:14] <Jonathan Lennox> Sorry, I forgot to say my name again...
[07:44:22] <burn> Richard Ayzack (??) at mic
[07:44:33] <burn> Jonathan: yes, I almost nagged you :)
[07:45:53] <burn> ?? at mic
[07:46:46] <burn> Gyubong Oh was speaker
[07:46:49] <burn> Roni Even at mic
[07:47:26] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 11: Scene coordination policy
[07:50:38] <burn> Now discussing ticket #8 (not on a slide)
[07:51:02] <Lorenzo Miniero> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/clue/trac/ticket/8
[07:51:11] <Lorenzo Miniero> that should be it
[07:52:45] <Lorenzo Miniero> Presentazione interrotta
[07:53:07] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1: RTP Usage for CLUE
[07:53:17] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 2: RTP Usage: What’s New since the Interi
[07:53:49] Olle E. Johansson, Paris, France for the IETF 83 (GMT +1) joins the room
[07:54:38] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 3: Req. Media-1
[07:55:24] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 4: Req. Media-2
[07:55:31] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 3: Req. Media-1
[07:55:35] <burn> Roni Even at mic
[07:56:52] <burn> Steve Botzko at mic
[07:57:18] <burn> Magnus Westerlund at mic
[07:58:26] <burn> Colin Perkins at mic
[07:59:06] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 4: Req. Media-2
[08:00:22] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 5: Req. Media-3
[08:01:09] <burn> Colin Perkins at mic
[08:01:36] <burn> Roni Even at mic
[08:02:23] <burn> Colin Perkins at mic
[08:02:42] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 6: Req. Media-4
[08:03:34] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 7: Req Media-4: source moving
[08:03:48] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 8: Req Media-4: source moving
[08:04:20] <burn> Mark Duckworth at mic
[08:05:44] <burn> Roni Even at mic
[08:07:14] <burn> Brian at mic
[08:07:44] <burn> Steve Botzko at mic
[08:08:22] <burn> Richard Ayzack (?) at mic
[08:08:41] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 9: Req. Media-5
[08:10:13] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 10: Req. Media-6
[08:10:55] <burn> Roni Even at mic
[08:12:27] <burn> Steve Botzko at mic
[08:12:53] <burn> Roni Even at mic
[08:15:38] <burn> Steve Botzko at mic
[08:16:11] <burn> Roni Even at mic
[08:17:12] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 11: Req. Media-7
[08:18:10] <burn> Roni Even at mic
[08:18:42] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 10: Req. Media-6
[08:19:07] Ram Mohan R joins the room
[08:19:11] <burn> Magnus Westerlund at mic
[08:19:25] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 11: Req. Media-7
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[08:20:15] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 12: Req. Media-8
[08:21:52] <burn> Magnus Westerlund at mic
[08:23:36] <burn> Stephen Botzko at mic
[08:25:12] Olle E. Johansson, Paris, France for the IETF 83 (GMT +1) joins the room
[08:25:19] <burn> Magnus Westerlund at mic
[08:26:10] <burn> Roni Even at mic
[08:29:14] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 13: Req. Media-9
[08:29:20] <burn> Comments from Stephen Botzko in the room about lack of agreement
[08:30:15] <burn> Roni Even at mic
[08:30:21] Olle E. Johansson, Paris, France for the IETF 83 (GMT +1) leaves the room
[08:30:41] Nusrat Tarin joins the room
[08:31:11] <burn> Magnus Westerlund at mic
[08:32:09] <burn> Roni Even at mic
[08:33:06] <burn> Colin Perkins at mic
[08:33:58] <burn> Steve Botzko at mic
[08:36:29] <burn> Roni Even at mic
[08:37:14] <burn> Colin Perkins at mic
[08:38:04] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 14: Req. Media-10
[08:38:43] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 15: Req. Media-11
[08:39:17] <burn> Colin Perkins at mic
[08:40:22] <burn> Roni Even at mic
[08:40:35] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 16: Comments?
[08:41:38] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 1: Mapping RTP streams to CLUE media captur
[08:43:27] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 2: Introduction
[08:45:00] <burn> Jonathan Lennox at mic
[08:46:22] <burn> Colin Perkins at mic
[08:47:02] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 3: Assumptions
[08:48:52] <burn> Colin Perkins at mic
[08:50:58] <Lorenzo Miniero> Slide 4: Proposal
[08:51:41] <burn> Magnus Westerlund at mic
[08:54:01] <burn> Colin Perkins at mic
[08:56:48] Olle E. Johansson, Paris, France for the IETF 83 (GMT +1) joins the room
[08:58:47] <burn> Mark Duckworth at mic
[09:01:04] <burn> Magnus Westerlund at mic
[09:02:30] <burn> Brian Baldino at mic
[09:05:19] <burn> Jonathon Lennox at mic — sort of
[09:05:56] <burn> Jonathan and Brian having conversation in front of the mic
[09:06:43] <burn> Christer Holmberg at mic
[09:08:54] <burn> Richard Ayzack at mic
[09:10:12] <Lorenzo Miniero> Presentazione interrotta
[09:10:12] Ingemar Johansson joins the room
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[09:11:01] <Alessandro Amirante> Slide 3: Purpose
[09:11:11] <Alessandro Amirante> Slide 3: Purpose
[09:11:26] <Alessandro Amirante> Slide 4: Overview
[09:12:12] <Alessandro Amirante> Slide 5: Assumptions
[09:13:18] Ingemar Johansson leaves the room
[09:13:31] <burn> Jonathan Lennox at mic
[09:14:15] <Alessandro Amirante> Slide 6: Low Quality Sender
[09:14:41] <Alessandro Amirante> Slide 7: Medium Quality Sender
[09:14:59] <Alessandro Amirante> Slide 8: Medium Quality Sender
[09:15:08] <Alessandro Amirante> Slide 9: draft-westerlund-avtcore-rtp-simulcast
[09:15:31] <Alessandro Amirante> Slide 10: Medium Quality Sender
[09:15:50] <Alessandro Amirante> Slide 11: High Quality Sender
[09:16:04] <Alessandro Amirante> Slide 12: draft-westerlund-avtcore-max-ssrc-00
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[09:18:09] <burn> Brian Baldino at mic
[09:18:13] Ram Mohan R leaves the room
[09:18:38] <burn> Jonathan Lennox says "probably more encoder" from the room
[09:18:49] <burn> Jonathan Lennox at the mic
[09:19:21] <Alessandro Amirante> Slide 13: draft-westerlund-avtcore-max-ssrc-00
[09:20:23] <burn> Jonathan Lennox at mic
[09:21:35] <burn> Roni Even at mic
[09:23:53] <burn> Brian Rosen at mic
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[09:24:18] <Alessandro Amirante> Slide 14: Mixer Stream Roles and SSRC
[09:25:06] <Alessandro Amirante> Slide 15: Mixer Stream Roles and SSRC
[09:25:35] <burn> Jonathan Lennox at mic
[09:26:41] <burn> Magnus Westerlund at mic
[09:26:48] <burn> test
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[09:27:55] <Dan Burnett> That was Steve Botzko at the mic
[09:28:00] <Alessandro Amirante> Slide 16: Mixer Stream Roles and SSRC
[09:28:09] <Alessandro Amirante> Slide 17: draft-westerlund-dispatch-stream-selecti
[09:28:34] <Alessandro Amirante> Slide 18: draft-westerlund-dispatch-stream-selecti
[09:28:46] <Alessandro Amirante> Slide 19: draft-westerlund-avtext-rtp-stream-pause
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[09:30:03] <Dan Burnett> Roni Even at the mic
[09:30:27] <Dan Burnett> Magnus Westerlund at the mic
[09:30:38] <Dan Burnett> (the other mic)
[09:31:31] <Alessandro Amirante> Presentation stopped
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