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Johansson, Sollentuna, Sweden (GMT+1 DST) joins the room [11:10:31] paul.erkkila joins the room [11:10:48] RjS joins the room [11:10:52] mhp joins the room [11:10:52] tomkri joins the room [11:11:04] Theo joins the room [11:11:39] Theo scribe [11:12:52] alan's slides [11:13:03] "shared appearance of a SIP AOR" [11:14:04] spencerdawkins joins the room [11:14:22] Doc url: http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-bliss-shared-appearances-03.txt [11:14:44] Hi Theo. how full is the room [11:14:56] About half [11:16:29] slide: "open issues : replaces and joins" [11:16:40] andy: possibly about 40 people? [11:16:46] just from a very quickglance [11:16:54] perhaops 30 :) [11:18:51] Mic: Agents that can initiate pick-up MUST support sending. All agents MUST support receipt [11:19:11] ok [11:19:30] jfischl joins the room [11:19:41] I was too late - I can post on email [11:20:00] nils joins the room [11:20:05] suzukisn joins the room [11:20:36] No, support join and replaces [11:20:49] stripes joins the room [11:21:01] Yes [11:22:21] mhp leaves the room [11:22:25] michael joins the room [11:25:16] Theo: Might help if you add speaker's names here - for those listening to audio [11:26:44] ollie: speakers say their name when they talk [11:26:49] we tell them off if they don't [11:26:55] s/ollie/olle/ :-) [11:27:05] sorry ;) [11:27:40] Mic. Poor definition. It tells me what I do to seize, rather than what seize means. [11:27:55] Does seize mean reserve? [11:28:28] Will send text [11:35:23] Mr Sparks on the mic [11:37:44] sal joins the room [11:37:48] "From: The From header field contains the address-of-record of the person responsible for the registration. The value is the same as the To header field unless the request is a third-party registration." (RFC3261 p44) [11:39:23] "A registrar SHOULD authenticate the UAC. Mechanisms for the authentication of SIP user agents are described in Section 22. Registration behavior in no way overrides the generic authentication framework for SIP. If no authentication mechanism is available, the registrar MAY take the From address as the asserted identity of the originator of the request" p 48 [11:42:59] adam says yes [11:43:05] to alans question [11:43:14] adam suggests monitoring sipcore as well [11:45:37] simo.veikkolainen joins the room [11:45:51] Mic. The draft still needs more work on race conditions. For example if appearance selection uses NOTIFY and requires another NOTIFY to ack the selection this introduces lots of race conditions. The glare conditions are what make this feature complex and makes interoperability difficulty. [11:46:12] ok - once robert has finished [11:47:06] Andy: I suspect you're right. That's what I was hinting at when I went to the mic. [11:48:36] Before sending text for race conditions, Andy should identify the race conditions and get buy-in that they should be addressed. [11:50:29] sorry - on slide "changes from previous versuon" [11:50:31] slacking [11:51:55] slide "to be done" [11:52:17] slide "cc retain" [11:53:16] Keith Drage at the mic [11:56:19] Theo talking [11:56:28] Slide: Status [11:56:31] That's it. [11:57:17] Francois on mic [11:58:33] Adam's draft is in DISPATCH, no? [11:59:47] I have read it [12:00:03] I have read Theo's draft, that is [12:00:20] 6 other people raised hand here too [12:03:47] I have [12:03:53] I have [12:04:33] Martin Franzén joins the room [12:18:05] Did anyone understand the last speaker? 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