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Wednesday, July 24, 2019< ^ >
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[19:48:02] <Juliusz Chroboczek> Hiya!
[19:48:09] <Baptiste Jonglez> Hi there!
[19:48:14] <Baptiste Jonglez> I can hear you
[19:48:15] <dschinazi@jab.im> Hey Juliusz!
[19:48:18] <dschinazi@jab.im> Thanks!
[19:48:58] <dschinazi@jab.im> I'll be your friendly neighboUrhood Jabber scribe today. If you want me to relay something please say it here prefixed with "mic: "
[19:49:15] <Juliusz Chroboczek> Hi David!  Thanks for volunteering.
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[19:50:34] <Toke Høiland-Jørgensen> Hey everyone :)
[19:51:03] <Antonin Decimo> Hello everyone!
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[19:52:11] <Juliusz Chroboczek> meetecho, please pan to the room.
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[19:53:39] <Antonin Decimo> Wow!
[19:53:43] <Antonin Decimo> Amazing!
[19:53:51] <Juliusz Chroboczek> Antonin, ?
[19:54:13] <Antonin Decimo> We have a full-screen full-page document ;)
[19:54:42] <Baptiste Jonglez> Hi Antonin :)
[19:57:35] <dschinazi@jab.im> Hey! Don't forget the implementation that doesn't exist!
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[19:58:25] <Antonin Decimo> And there’s support for HMAC too in wireshark and tcpdump, right?
[19:58:41] <Juliusz Chroboczek> Yep :-)
[19:58:53] <Juliusz Chroboczek> dscinazi, take the mike.
[19:59:16] <dschinazi@jab.im> Bah I can't talk about it if it doesn't exist
[19:59:29] <Juliusz Chroboczek> Right.
[19:59:31] <Toke Høiland-Jørgensen> I see half of Barbara
[19:59:46] <Baptiste Jonglez> the better half, I hope
[19:59:49] <Baptiste Jonglez> (me too)
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[20:00:05] <Juliusz Chroboczek> meetecho, please pan to the speaker.
[20:00:10] <Juliusz Chroboczek> ty
[20:00:13] <Baptiste Jonglez> wow, voice command
[20:00:44] <Meetecho> I didn't touch anything, actually
[20:00:50] <Meetecho> Did someone move the camera manually?
[20:00:51] <dschinazi@jab.im> I did it from the room :)
[20:00:54] <Meetecho> If so, please don't do that
[20:01:04] <dschinazi@jab.im> Sorry about that
[20:01:06] <Meetecho> Then please put it as it was before
[20:01:14] <Meetecho> It's all tuned
[20:01:20] <Meetecho> We control it remotely to be able to pan to mic line
[20:01:32] <Meetecho> If you move it that breaks it
[20:01:32] <Toke Høiland-Jørgensen> David the anarchist!
[20:01:50] <dschinazi@jab.im> The speaker is in the pink X and they weren't visible, perhaps it was accidentally moved before?
[20:02:00] <Meetecho> No, we control it remotely
[20:02:20] <Meetecho> But if you move it, our panning capabilities are affected
[20:02:41] <Juliusz Chroboczek> mic: this looks to me like a hack.  SHouldn't it be encoded more intuitively?
[20:03:15] <Juliusz Chroboczek> Using negative numbers as NULL.
[20:03:34] <Juliusz Chroboczek> There's precedent?
[20:03:59] <Juliusz Chroboczek> Ok, I'll shut up and retain the right to grumble.
[20:04:11] <Toke Høiland-Jørgensen> Shouldn't the information model just specify the NULL?
[20:04:24] <Toke Høiland-Jørgensen> And then leave the negative numbers thing up to implementation encodings?
[20:04:31] <Toke Høiland-Jørgensen> ^^mic please
[20:08:39] <Toke Høiland-Jørgensen> Oh, I misread; TR-181 already has a representation for NULL, but it's a bad one... gotcha, I can live with negative numbers
[20:13:01] <dschinazi@jab.im> Microphones working on Linux, maybe in 2020?
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[20:13:39] <Juliusz Chroboczek> mic: no idea.
[20:14:01] <dschinazi@jab.im> Juliusz: no idea what?
[20:15:57] <Toke Høiland-Jørgensen> dschinazi: 2020 is going to be the year of Linux on the desktop!
[20:16:16] <dschinazi@jab.im> @Toke yes! That's when Windows will support it fully
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[20:26:44] <Juliusz Chroboczek> mic: I'll send examples to the list.
[20:27:09] <Juliusz Chroboczek> I'll send routing policy examples to the list.
[20:34:55] <Toke Høiland-Jørgensen> *emphatic nodding*
[20:35:26] dschinazi@jab.im looks at the microphone and nods emphatically at it
[20:45:27] <Juliusz Chroboczek> mic: nod.
[20:47:56] <Antonin Decimo> no it might require changes
[20:48:52] <Toke Høiland-Jørgensen> Antonin: Was that supposed to go to the mic?
[20:48:52] <Juliusz Chroboczek> Antonin, clarify?
[20:49:01] <dschinazi@jab.im> @Antonin elaborate?
[20:49:35] <Antonin Decimo> I withdraw ^^
[20:49:41] <dschinazi@jab.im> :D
[20:51:21] <Toke Høiland-Jørgensen> Great job, chairs! ;)
[20:51:28] <Antonin Decimo> Thanks to the chairs!
[20:51:30] <Baptiste Jonglez> Yep, thanks!
[20:51:38] <Juliusz Chroboczek> Thanks to the chairs!
[20:51:42] <Toke Høiland-Jørgensen> See you all next time / on the list :)
[20:51:42] <Antonin Decimo> thanks David for the mic
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[20:51:51] <dschinazi@jab.im> You're welcome <3
[20:52:00] <Antonin Decimo> and Linux > Windows
[20:52:05] <Juliusz Chroboczek> Baptiste, good talk.
[20:52:09] <dschinazi@jab.im> +1
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[20:52:20] <dschinazi@jab.im> That's all folks! See you soon!
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