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Wednesday, November 7, 2018< ^ >
DavidSchinazi has set the subject to: IETF 102 babel WG
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[08:38:22] <Gabriel Kerneis> I get no sound, is this intended?
[08:40:18] <Antonin Décimo> I don't have sound either
[08:40:18] <Gabriel Kerneis> works now
[08:40:19] <Antonin Décimo> there it is
[08:40:26] <Juliusz Chroboczek> You want me to get in line?
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[08:43:23] <Gabriel Kerneis> I'll give a hand for minutes
[08:43:23] <DavidSchinazi> meetecho: the meetecho screen is not displaying the meetecho
[08:43:45] <Juliusz Chroboczek> Hi Donald, hi Barbara.
[08:43:51] <Juliusz Chroboczek> You're chairing, Barbara?
[08:44:06] <DavidSchinazi> Hello all, I'll be your friendly jabber scribe today. Please say "mic: " to have a comment relayed at the mic
[08:44:41] <DavidSchinazi> Does audio work for remote attendees?
[08:44:56] <Antonin Décimo> I have a bad buzzing sound, but the auio works
[08:45:05] <Antonin Décimo> ouch
[08:45:09] <Gabriel Kerneis> likewise
[08:45:10] <DavidSchinazi> better now?
[08:45:18] <Antonin Décimo> little bit
[08:45:29] <Gabriel Kerneis> buzzing sound is a generic meetecho issue I think, it was there even before the meeting began
[08:45:35] <Gabriel Kerneis> but voices are louder than the buzz
[08:45:58] <Juliusz Chroboczek> Sounds like 50Hz
[08:46:06] <Meetecho> We're not aware of any buzzing actually
[08:46:19] <Meetecho> It's probably the gain control that is capturing louder when no one's talking
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[08:46:26] <Meetecho> It will go away when they talk
[08:46:31] <Juliusz Chroboczek> Meetecho, the 50Hz buzz just got away.
[08:46:39] <Antonin Décimo> yes it does
[08:46:41] <DavidSchinazi> @Meetecho: can you help with the screen?
[08:46:55] <Meetecho> DavidSchinazi: which screen?
[08:47:16] <DavidSchinazi> The second one in the room is displaying a linux desktop instead of the meetecho window
[08:47:38] <Meetecho> Fixing that, thanks for the heads up!
[08:47:42] <DavidSchinazi> Thanks!
[08:49:22] <DavidSchinazi> (note that the laptop on the chairs' desk is showing the meetecho window, we're just not seeing it on the second big screen)
[08:50:07] <Meetecho> Yep, probably some cable issue, someone's coming
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[08:52:32] <DavidSchinazi> Thanks meetecho! All fixed now
[08:52:41] <Meetecho> (y)
[08:53:25] <Juliusz Chroboczek> mic: and source-specific.
[08:53:52] <DavidSchinazi> Juliusz what about source specific?
[08:54:03] <Juliusz Chroboczek> Homenet MISSREF.  Forget about it.
[08:54:14] <DavidSchinazi> Ack
[08:56:21] <DavidSchinazi> Barbara Stark presenting
[08:59:41] <Gabriel Kerneis> I can!
[08:59:47] <Antonin Décimo> I can !
[08:59:57] <DavidSchinazi> We can't hear you Juliusz
[09:00:10] <Antonin Décimo> the machine is brand new
[09:00:17] <DavidSchinazi> The user isn't
[09:00:36] <Juliusz Chroboczek> I'd be in favour of adding link types as needed, not in bulk.
[09:01:07] <Gabriel Kerneis> meetecho: remote participants can hear juliusz but the room cannot
[09:01:54] <Juliusz Chroboczek> From an implementation point of view, I see no reason to add other link types.
[09:02:12] <Meetecho> Gabriel Kerneis: yes we know, someone's on the way
[09:02:19] <Meetecho> The laptop is probably muted in your room
[09:02:21] <Gabriel Kerneis> thanks a lot
[09:02:28] <Gabriel Kerneis> it seems to work now
[09:02:30] <DavidSchinazi> Thanks meetecho!
[09:03:20] <Meetecho> Yay!
[09:05:47] <Gabriel Kerneis> who is talking right now?
[09:06:02] <Juliusz Chroboczek> Author of YANG draft.
[09:06:27] <Gabriel Kerneis> mahesh, thanks
[09:06:34] <DavidSchinazi> Mahesh Jethanandani
[09:06:42] <DavidSchinazi> William Lupton now
[09:10:42] <Juliusz Chroboczek> Meetecho, on occasion I'd like to see what Mahesh looks like.
[09:10:58] <Meetecho> :)
[09:11:00] <Juliusz Chroboczek> (been interacting through e-mail, always better to have an idea)
[09:11:08] <Juliusz Chroboczek> ty
[09:11:09] <Meetecho> (sorry, too late...)
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[09:19:54] DavidSchinazi has set the subject to: IETF babel WG
[09:21:43] <Juliusz Chroboczek> Cool :-)
[09:21:49] <Gabriel Kerneis> oh David, I didn't know you moved to Google
[09:21:56] <DavidSchinazi> Happened last week :)
[09:22:04] <Gabriel Kerneis> yeah, just noticed that
[09:22:11] <Juliusz Chroboczek> You guys got to meet.
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[09:23:38] <Gabriel Kerneis> I'm unfortunately probably not going to MTV in Jan. as planned, but some time in Q2 very likely
[09:23:47] <DavidSchinazi> I would love to! Let me know when you are in MTV next
[09:27:30] <Gabriel Kerneis> who is talking?
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[09:31:47] <Gabriel Kerneis> I'm lost in speakers, if someone wants to jump in the pad:
[09:31:51] <Gabriel Kerneis> https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-103-babel
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[09:32:25] <Juliusz Chroboczek> That was a BBF forum person, I think the name is William Lawson.
[09:32:33] <DavidSchinazi> Yes
[09:36:18] <Gabriel Kerneis> David: can you remind people to give their name when they start speaking please?
[09:36:30] <DavidSchinazi> Will do
[09:36:34] <DavidSchinazi> That was our AD Martin
[09:37:55] <DavidSchinazi> Sorry we only have 6 people speaking with a total of 8 in the room
[09:38:16] <Gabriel Kerneis> no worries
[09:38:27] <Markus Stenberg> at least RFC8349 is destination-routing -only
[09:38:50] <Markus Stenberg> so dunno if there's extension for source-specific routing
[09:39:59] <Juliusz Chroboczek> ty, David.
[09:40:06] <Markus Stenberg> +1 as well
[09:40:26] <Juliusz Chroboczek> What's routing policy?
[09:41:50] <Markus Stenberg> really complex stuff about what are acceptable routes to accept/forward/whatnot
[09:41:59] <Markus Stenberg> more of a BGP thing I think than Babel, but shrug
[09:42:36] <Juliusz Chroboczek> +1
[09:43:57] <Juliusz Chroboczek> He's not wearing a shirt!
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[09:47:28] <Barbara Stark> Juliusz at mic
[09:48:00] <Barbara Stark> William Lupton is the person from BBF
[09:56:45] <Gabriel Kerneis> you mean "breaking changes" rather than "incompatible"
[09:56:57] <Gabriel Kerneis> I mean, they are not incompatible with each other
[09:57:06] <Gabriel Kerneis> but with the previous draft
[10:00:34] <DavidSchinazi> Yeah I had the same feeling, agreed
[10:00:49] <Juliusz Chroboczek> Thanks, Gabriel!
[10:00:55] <Juliusz Chroboczek> And thanks to the chairs!
[10:01:21] <Markus Stenberg> s'pose I have to update pybabel in my copious spare time :-) like on Friday!
[10:01:32] <Barbara Stark> @Gabriel: Thanks so much!
[10:02:02] <Gabriel Kerneis> I remember the first meeting we decided the scribe couldn't be remote
[10:02:10] <Gabriel Kerneis> well it seems to work out in the end :-)
[10:02:14] <Gabriel Kerneis> glad I can help
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