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[13:26:30] <DavidSchinazi> Can you hear the audio and see the slides on meetecho?
[13:27:02] DavidSchinazi has set the subject to: IETF 102 babel WG
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[13:28:06] <Antonin Décimo> looking good to me
[13:28:34] <Juliusz Chroboczek> Am i supposed to hear something?
[13:28:46] <Antonin Décimo> slides are not fullscreen
[13:28:52] <Antonin Décimo> I hear mumble
[13:28:52] <Juliusz Chroboczek> Thanks for coughing.
[13:29:49] <DavidSchinazi> We do not have a technical expert on chromebooks in the room
[13:31:09] <Juliusz Chroboczek> Hi Clara, hi Gregoire.
[13:31:46] <Clara Do> hi!
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[13:32:39] <DavidSchinazi> I'll be Jabber scribing for now, please say "mic: " followed by your message if you'd like me to relay something at the microphone
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[13:33:26] <DavidSchinazi> Meeting is starting - Donald speaking
[13:33:53] <Gabriel Kerneis> I can hear people laughing
[13:33:54] <DavidSchinazi> Russ is showing a strange flowchart titled "loading your slides onto the chromebook"
[13:34:06] <Juliusz Chroboczek> Meetecho, could you please do a pan over the audience, so we get an idea of the atmosphere in the room?
[13:34:20] <DavidSchinazi> room is happy yet slightly sleepy
[13:34:29] <Juliusz Chroboczek> Heh.
[13:34:37] <DavidSchinazi> There are 4 computers on the chair desk
[13:34:49] <Meetecho> Juliusz Chroboczek: we'll move the camera on the audience during your remote presentation
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[13:35:25] <Meetecho> DavidSchinazi: this feels like a description from one of the good ol' text adventures :D
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[13:35:37] <DavidSchinazi> Thanks :D
[13:35:53] <DavidSchinazi> You arrive at the mic line, the chair stares you down. What do you do?
[13:36:02] <Meetecho> Go West
[13:36:59] <Barbara Stark> Ah. And finding this room required going through a maze of twisty tunnels...
[13:37:46] <DavidSchinazi> All people in room have demonstrated ability to route through complex systems without persistent loops
[13:38:02] <Juliusz Chroboczek> ...without being eaten by a grue.
[13:38:06] <Denis Ovsienko> Donald, I am sorry but I had provided some non-positive reponse on the WGLC documents.
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[13:38:24] <DavidSchinazi> Does anyone object to declaring WG consensus on applicability doc?
[13:38:28] <Denis Ovsienko> 6126bis and source-specific, to be precise
[13:38:40] <DavidSchinazi> Denis do you want your comment relayed? Please say "mic: " if yes
[13:38:57] <DavidSchinazi> Donald was specifically discussing applicability docv
[13:39:14] <DavidSchinazi> Now discussing 6126bis and source specific
[13:39:44] <DavidSchinazi> now discussing 7298bis
[13:39:45] <Juliusz Chroboczek> mic: adoption, not last call.
[13:41:07] <DavidSchinazi> Now on Current Milestones slide - glorious in its Chroboczek format (use of bright green and red)
[13:41:19] <Gabriel Kerneis> etherpad embedding in meetecho is broken for me. if anybody else needs the link: https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-102-babel?useMonospaceFont=true
[13:41:41] <DavidSchinazi> Starting HMAC presentation
[13:42:08] <Juliusz Chroboczek> How do I get sound?
[13:42:20] <Barbara Stark> @Gabriel: Do you see the minutes I've been creating on Etherpad?
[13:42:21] <DavidSchinazi> join the meetecho line as presenter
[13:42:31] <Juliusz Chroboczek> I raise the hand?
[13:42:36] <DavidSchinazi> apparently meetecho emailed you
[13:42:39] <Gabriel Kerneis> @Barbara: I do
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[13:42:59] <DavidSchinazi> Juliusz loud and clear
[13:43:24] <Meetecho> Gabriel Kerneis: thx for the heads up, we'll check what's wrong
[13:43:38] <Barbara Stark> A wee bit too loud, which is causing clear to suffer a little
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[13:46:22] <DavidSchinazi> Cringing cryptographer seen in the back
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[13:47:29] <Gabriel Kerneis> for the record, I'm taking a couple notes on etherpad but will have to leave in 15 minutes
[13:47:49] <DavidSchinazi> Thanks Gabriel
[13:48:14] <Barbara Stark> Yep. Thx.
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[13:49:47] <DavidSchinazi> I think the babeld random number generator always returns 42
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[13:58:58] <Antonin Décimo> https://xkcd.com/221/
[13:59:14] <DavidSchinazi> (y)
[14:00:23] <Jean Dupuy> (Y)
[14:01:47] <DavidSchinazi> Anyone in favor or against adoption on Jabber?
[14:01:54] <Christopher Wood> In favor
[14:02:31] <DavidSchinazi> Can someone Jabber scribe while I present DTLS?
[14:02:38] <Christopher Wood> I'll do it
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[14:04:17] <Barbara Stark> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/materials/slides-102-babel-dtls-in-babel-00
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[14:08:40] <Juliusz Chroboczek> Tu quoque, Barbara.
[14:09:01] <Juliusz Chroboczek> Who was that?
[14:09:08] <Barbara Stark> Ted Lemon
[14:09:11] <Juliusz Chroboczek> ty
[14:09:49] <Barbara Stark> Denis Ovsienko remotely
[14:14:55] <Juliusz Chroboczek> I'd like to take that.
[14:15:05] <Barbara Stark> @Juliusz: Tu quoque ([1] Latin for "you also") or the appeal to hypocrisy is an informal fallacy that intends to discredit the opponent's argument by asserting the opponent's failure to act consistently in accordance with its conclusion(s).  ??
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[14:17:55] <Juliusz Chroboczek> Barbara, it's the last words of Ceasar (Julius, by the way), when getting stabbed by Brutus
[14:18:05] <DavidSchinazi> Maybe Julius Caesar was wrong?
[14:18:14] <Juliusz Chroboczek> Nice shirt, David :-)
[14:18:28] <DavidSchinazi> Why thank you
[14:18:43] <DavidSchinazi> Barbara presenting Babel Homenet Security
[14:20:18] <DavidSchinazi> Barbara presenting Information Model
[14:22:03] <Juliusz Chroboczek> David, it you guys are the ones implementing DTLS, so I'll be glad to shut up on the two ports issue.  But I reserve to say I told you so ;-)
[14:22:36] <DavidSchinazi> Let the minutes show Juliusz has the right to say he told me so, if an issue does occur
[14:24:55] <DavidSchinazi> Mahesh Jethanandani at mic
[14:30:57] <DavidSchinazi> Juliusz likes Babel
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[14:33:23] <Juliusz Chroboczek> David: ack.
[14:35:06] <Juliusz Chroboczek> Barbara, thanks a lot.
[14:35:18] <DavidSchinazi> +1, thanks Barbara
[14:37:38] <DavidSchinazi> Barbara at mic
[14:38:32] <DavidSchinazi> Any last comments?
[14:38:53] <Denis Ovsienko> I have some comments but prefer to take time to send my comments to the mailing list.
[14:39:10] <DavidSchinazi> Sounds good, thanks Denis
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[14:39:17] <Juliusz Chroboczek> Denis, please do.
[14:39:21] <DavidSchinazi> And we're done, thanks everyone
[14:39:34] <Denis Ovsienko> ttyl
[14:39:49] <Juliusz Chroboczek> Thanks to the chairs!
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