[19:49:50] eric.friedrich84 joins the room [19:50:12] csp joins the room [19:50:21] eric.friedrich84 leaves the room [19:50:55] efriedri@cisco.com joins the room [19:51:50] Adam Uzelac joins the room [19:56:05] efriedri@cisco.com leaves the room: Replaced by new connection. [20:02:39] csp leaves the room [20:02:48] csp joins the room [20:04:24] Cullen Jennings joins the room [20:05:56] DaveO joins the room [20:06:52] test - can folks see this ? [20:06:58] yes [20:07:00] yes [20:07:05] thx [20:07:34] there's no ebex for this session - any audio? [20:07:52] audio streaming working well here [20:07:57] JonathanLennox joins the room [20:08:47] getting audio now thanks. [20:09:13] eric.friedrich84 joins the room [20:09:17] Ali C. Begen joins the room [20:10:08] *wave* [20:10:08] suzukisn joins the room [20:13:55] billvs joins the room [20:17:29] magnus joins the room [20:23:27] other than the ones we are doing for RAMS! [20:26:13] Cullen Jennings leaves the room [20:27:17] The RAMS work has strong implications for the core protocols. If work like this is spun-off into separate working groups, then those groups will need strong ties with the core RTP-maintenance working group. [20:27:32] I agree with Colin. [20:28:16] yep [20:28:38] Adam Uzelac is jabber scribe - if there's a relay request - please let me know. As well as your name. [20:33:15] billvs leaves the room [20:34:06] It seems that the proposed work for AVTEXT is more transport-related than much of the work in DISPATCH. Not sure there's a good fit there? [20:34:14] Cullen Jennings joins the room [20:37:00] to read: what you get from a review in the AVT WG is the expertise in RTP. It's an equal danger to do a payload format wihtout deep understanding of RTP as not having a deep understanding of the codec. [20:37:33] Agree with DaveO (+Wenger...) [20:37:41] Dave - is that a relay to the mic request? [20:37:44] yes [20:37:47] k [20:44:07] any "hands" from the jabber room? [20:44:17] +1 wave [20:44:24] I'm not in favour, as I stated on the list. [20:45:00] thanks for relaying cullen [20:45:03] jr112 joins the room [20:45:27] no worry - glad to do that [20:45:38] as0-d91k joins the room [20:46:06] billvs joins the room [20:46:42] test [20:46:56] test ACK [20:50:05] I agree that there are no show-stoppers, but - like Magnus - I have some questions regarding SSRC use and RTP session management. [For relay] [20:50:25] Will comment to the list in the next week or so. [20:50:37] full name - sorry to have to ask. [20:50:54] Colin Perkins (doesn't jabber show this?) [20:51:28] name shows as "csp" [20:54:13] Haibin Song joins the room [20:54:38] DWING-WXP0DB1C9E5F joins the room [21:02:38] jr112 leaves the room [21:05:28] Which slide? [21:05:59] titled 'If server and Client Support RTP/RTCP Muxing" [21:06:05] thks [21:06:06] can't see a slide number [21:06:08] np [21:06:56] DWING-WXP0DB1C9E5F leaves the room [21:08:47] DWING-WXP0DB1C9E5F joins the room [21:08:49] Pen joins the room [21:10:39] jr112 joins the room [21:11:45] krkiss@chatmask.com joins the room [21:17:04] Pen leaves the room [21:19:39] krkiss@chatmask.com is now known as Krisztian [21:19:53] Krisztian is now known as Krisztian Kiss [21:20:17] Krisztian Kiss leaves the room [21:21:21] moving on to 'Port Mapping' presentation [21:21:36] by: Tom Van Caenegem [21:21:57] on slide 2 [21:22:09] do we have tose slides uploaded? [21:22:18] avt-10 [21:23:03] thanks! [21:24:31] on the 3rd slide titled 'Port Mapping Alternative' [21:26:40] Pen joins the room [21:26:48] Pen leaves the room [21:27:56] The RAMS draft needs to clarify whether the retransmissions and the media comprise a single RTP session or multiple RTP sessions. That seems related to whether this proposal works or not. [21:28:34] did you look at the new subsection in the intro? [21:28:44] it says they are different sessions [21:29:07] Section 1.1? [21:29:50] Ali at the mic [21:30:04] magnus at the mic [21:30:10] I believe 1.1 [21:31:05] moving on to MPEG2 TS Preamble presentation - avt-8 [21:31:23] Ali: I had some comments on that section, which I still have to write-up. Will get back to you. [21:31:45] cool, I am will hold on the rev until I hear back from you. [21:33:31] are we looking at avt-8? [21:33:46] yes - main diagram [21:33:53] Ali: Magnus has been raising similar issues, I think. Will review the list and get back to you next week. [21:33:53] how is the audio feed ? [21:34:10] was excellent but not good now becasue the speaker isn't tlakng into the mic [21:34:10] yes - but they had to switch to the PPT version, as the diagram got munged in the PDF conversion [21:34:30] ca you email to avt? [21:34:45] (or just me :-) ) [21:35:08] is that any better ? [21:35:10] yes [21:35:19] Can you email it to the list, not just to Dave? [21:35:20] roni is emailing ppt I believe [21:35:26] but TOM (it's tom?) is still speaking low [21:35:41] yes, it is Tom [21:35:46] Tom V. [21:36:45] wish he'd shown ECMs, which mitght be multiple GOPs back in the stream [21:37:19] yeah, would be good idea, but if you can see the green boxes keep changing [21:43:37] good point [21:45:35] krkiss@chatmask.com joins the room [21:46:25] ask: has it been fed to receivers from multiple manufacturers? [21:46:38] i.e. in a multi-vendor situation [21:46:45] krkiss@chatmask.com leaves the room [21:47:07] ask: does the Xia draft _always_ produce a valid MPEG2-TS? Or does this depend on the details of the preamble? [21:47:30] and there's nothing in the real world (until rams) that says the recevier can't just throw stuff on the floor until it gets what it wants at the right timing? [21:51:41] One of my concerns is the validity of the MPEG2TS if the PCR is found in the preamble? [21:52:57] could someone please relay my previous question? [21:53:37] cullen is in the queue [21:53:45] so you want me to ask "One of my concerns is the validity of the MPEG2TS if the PCR is found in the preamble?" 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