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[07:04:12] <richard.barnes> morning, everyone
[07:04:18] <richard.barnes> is anyone scribing yet?
[07:04:24] <JonathanLennox> I'm jabber scribing
[07:04:31] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Agenda - Monday
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[07:05:39] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Agenda - Friday
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[07:06:10] <Emil Ivov> Hey Jonathan, I was wondering if streaming is supposed to be working
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[07:06:26] <JonathanLennox> I will ask
[07:06:32] <Emil Ivov> thanks
[07:06:52] <JonathanLennox> They say yes
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[07:07:32] <JonathanLennox> Is there trouble?
[07:07:47] <Emil Ivov> until 30 seconds ago we were still getting music
[07:07:51] <Emil Ivov> it's silence now
[07:08:03] <Andy Hutton> I only get music
[07:08:30] <JonathanLennox> They'll look at it
[07:08:35] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Note well
[07:08:43] <Emil Ivov> great, thanks
[07:08:50] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Intellectual property
[07:09:25] <JonathanLennox> Slide: document status
[07:09:49] <JonathanLennox> Slide: document status (in publication states)
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[07:11:50] <JonathanLennox> If the audio starts working please let me know
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[07:12:13] <Emil Ivov> we will. so far it hasn't though (no music either)
[07:12:17] <JonathanLennox> Slide: other drafts
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[07:13:18] <Cullen Jennings> Did the streaming audio get fixed ?
[07:13:35] <Andy Hutton> still no audio
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[07:15:59] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Liaisons received
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[07:18:23] <JonathanLennox> Next presentation: Rapid Acquisition for Multicast RTP Sessions
[07:19:01] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Recap: Proposed Approach
[07:19:51] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Major Changes since Individual Version -03
[07:21:14] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Rapid Acquisition
[07:21:44] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Control Plane
[07:22:48] <JonathanLennox> Slide: RAMS Request
[07:23:07] <JonathanLennox> Slide: RAMS Information
[07:25:15] <JonathanLennox> Slide: RAMS Termination
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[07:26:16] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Control Plane -- Extensions
[07:26:32] <richard.barnes> sorry, which preso are we on?
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[07:26:46] <JonathanLennox> Rapid Acquisition for Multicast RTP Sessions
[07:26:49] <richard.barnes> thanks
[07:26:55] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Open Issues
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[07:29:02] <JonathanLennox> At the mic: Ye-Kui Wang
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[07:31:09] <JonathanLennox> At the mic: Ali Begen
[07:32:28] <JonathanLennox> Ye-Kui still at the other mic
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[07:33:57] <JonathanLennox> Is there still no audio?
[07:34:02] <Emil Ivov> none
[07:34:38] <JonathanLennox> Tom: can you confirm with the tech what URL he thinks it's streaming from?  If he thinks it's working, maybe the URL on the tools page is wrong
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[07:36:00] <JonathanLennox> Next presentation: Port Mapping for retransmission (Roni Even)
[07:36:26] <TomTaylor> They're debugging. Something is going wrong in the handoff between this site and the ISP
[07:36:33] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Problem description (1)
[07:38:09] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Problem description (2)
[07:39:19] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Problem Summary
[07:39:49] <JonathanLennox> Going to the mic: Dave Oran
[07:39:55] <TomTaylor> Dave Oran heading to the mike
[07:41:16] <TomTaylor> Dave's point: need coordination between burst request and port mapping -- timing issue
[07:42:09] <TomTaylor> State management problem -- can't agree ports too far in advance or you have to refresh for NATs. Additional point
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[07:43:09] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Proposed solutions
[07:43:15] <TomTaylor> -- servers don't want to carry long-term receiver state
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[07:44:54] <JonathanLennox> At the mic: Colin Perkins
[07:46:09] <TomTaylor> Summary: do we need a general solution or is this needed only for this particular case?
[07:46:34] <csp> And if we go for a general solution, should it be done in RTCP or elsewhere?
[07:47:19] <JonathanLennox> Slide: example w/o Muxing
[07:48:06] <TomTaylor> To the list
[07:49:27] <Emil Ivov> It seems that streaming has just been fixed
[07:49:44] <Emil Ivov> thanks folks!
[07:49:46] <JonathanLennox> Excellent!  Let us know if there are further problems
[07:50:06] <JonathanLennox> At the mic: Colin Perkins
[07:52:52] <JonathanLennox> At the mic: Dave Oran
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[07:56:04] <mlm.michael.miller> Any one else having problems with the audio still
[07:58:38] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Synchronized Playback in RAMS (Ye-Kui Wang)
[07:58:59] <JonathanLennox> Sorry, Peilin Yang is presenting
[07:59:16] <JonathanLennox> Slide: The issue induced by RAMS
[07:59:55] <Alfred Heggestad> audio is not working for me
[08:00:09] <Alfred Heggestad> seems like all the other streams are working, but not stream02
[08:00:21] <JonathanLennox> I believe AVT is stream07?
[08:00:34] <JonathanLennox> No, I'm wrong, sorry
[08:00:53] <JonathanLennox> Emil: is it still working for you/
[08:01:02] <Emil Ivov> it is. i have it on stream05 though
[08:01:05] <JonathanLennox> Slide: The total inter-user playback delay
[08:01:31] <Alfred Heggestad> in which room is AVT meeting ?
[08:01:37] <Andy Hutton> Audio now working stream02
[08:01:49] <JonathanLennox> We are in Congresshall C
[08:02:03] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Reducing the playback delay
[08:02:34] <Alfred Heggestad> ok, stream02 is working now :)
[08:02:39] <Alfred Heggestad> thanks
[08:02:51] <mlm.michael.miller> yes it is
[08:02:57] <JonathanLennox> At mic: Bill Ver Steeg: Cisco has IPR on this
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[08:03:30] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Advantages of the proposal
[08:03:38] <JonathanLennox> At mic: Ali Begen
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[08:11:32] <JonathanLennox> At mic: Ashok Narayanan
[08:11:38] <JonathanLennox> At mic: Colin Perkins
[08:14:42] <JonathanLennox> At mic: Ye-Kui Wang
[08:14:49] <JonathanLennox> At mic: Dave Oran
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[08:18:55] <JonathanLennox> Next presentation: Improved Rapid Acquisition of Multicast Sessions (Ye-Kui Wang)
[08:19:21] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Problem #1
[08:20:28] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Problem #2
[08:21:03] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Problem #3
[08:22:19] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Solution (1/2)
[08:23:15] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Solution (2/2)
[08:25:00] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Advantages of the proposal
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[08:25:28] <JonathanLennox> At the mic: Bill Ver Steeg
[08:26:32] <JonathanLennox> At the mic: Ali Begen
[08:27:46] <JonathanLennox> At the mic: why twice the media bandwidth is possible
[08:27:55] <JonathanLennox> Sorry, shoud be "slide"
[08:28:07] <JonathanLennox> At the mic: Colin Perkins
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[08:34:48] <JonathanLennox> At the mic: Ali Begen
[08:35:59] <JonathanLennox> Presentation: Multicast Acquisition: RTCP-XR
[08:36:16] <JonathanLennox> Ali Begen
[08:36:20] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Introduction
[08:36:48] <JonathanLennox> Slide: MA Report Block -- Base Report
[08:37:56] <JonathanLennox> Slide: MA Report Block -- Extensions (Optional)
[08:38:04] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Vendor-Neutral Extensions
[08:39:43] <JonathanLennox> Slide: SDP Signaling
[08:39:53] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Discussion on the List
[08:41:45] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Next Steps
[08:41:56] <JonathanLennox> At mic: Bill Ver Steeg
[08:42:53] <JonathanLennox> Next Presentation: Audio Level Indications in RTP Streams
[08:43:25] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Where we come from
[08:44:31] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Where we come from (AVT)
[08:45:04] <JonathanLennox> Slide: The problem (part 1)
[08:45:51] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Why?
[08:47:23] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Why? (Picture of typing)
[08:47:34] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Why? (cat)
[08:48:14] <JonathanLennox> Slide: The problem (part 2)
[08:49:22] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Why?
[08:49:42] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Solution(s) approach
[08:50:46] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Main Issue
[08:52:41] <JonathanLennox> At the mic: Geoffrey Goldberg
[08:54:02] <JonathanLennox> At the mic: me
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[09:05:38] <JonathanLennox> Next presentation: SRTP Store-and-Forward
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[09:05:57] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Content
[09:06:08] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Updates
[09:07:20] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Updates (solution draft)
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[09:09:42] <JonathanLennox> Slide: SRTP SaF Packet Foramt
[09:11:31] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Context Indication
[09:13:13] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Out-of-band context identification
[09:14:21] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Cullen Jennings
[09:14:48] <JonathanLennox> Should be "at the mic"
[09:14:55] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Out-of-band context identification (Indirection via Content ID)
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[09:16:53] <JonathanLennox> Slide: In-band context identification
[09:17:35] <JonathanLennox> At the mic: Richard Barnes
[09:19:00] <JonathanLennox> Slide: In-band context identification: Switching between e2e contexts
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[09:20:08] <JonathanLennox> Slide: Request
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[09:24:08] <JonathanLennox> End of session
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