[06:27:15] tomkri joins the room [06:29:25] Emil Ivov joins the room [06:45:38] tomkri leaves the room [06:50:33] Jabber-Wile joins the room [06:52:38] JonathanLennox joins the room [06:52:53] Andy Hutton joins the room [06:56:15] JonathanLennox has set the subject to: Audio/Video Transport WG [06:57:08] mlepinski joins the room [07:02:03] richard.barnes joins the room [07:02:14] richard.barnes leaves the room [07:02:19] Emil Ivov leaves the room [07:02:49] Jabber-Wile leaves the room: I'm happy Miranda IM user. Get it at http://miranda-im.org/. [07:03:11] Emil Ivov joins the room [07:04:05] richard.barnes joins the room [07:04:12] morning, everyone [07:04:18] is anyone scribing yet? [07:04:24] I'm jabber scribing [07:04:31] Slide: Agenda - Monday [07:05:32] Jabber-Wile joins the room [07:05:33] suzukisn joins the room [07:05:39] Slide: Agenda - Friday [07:05:44] Jabber-Wile leaves the room: I'm happy Miranda IM user. Get it at http://miranda-im.org/. [07:06:10] Hey Jonathan, I was wondering if streaming is supposed to be working [07:06:11] richard.barnes leaves the room [07:06:22] KaiFischer joins the room [07:06:26] I will ask [07:06:32] thanks [07:06:52] They say yes [07:06:57] csp joins the room [07:07:32] Is there trouble? [07:07:47] until 30 seconds ago we were still getting music [07:07:51] it's silence now [07:08:03] I only get music [07:08:30] They'll look at it [07:08:35] Slide: Note well [07:08:43] great, thanks [07:08:50] Slide: Intellectual property [07:09:25] Slide: document status [07:09:49] Slide: document status (in publication states) [07:11:33] stripes.taa joins the room [07:11:50] If the audio starts working please let me know [07:12:03] tomkri joins the room [07:12:13] we will. so far it hasn't though (no music either) [07:12:17] Slide: other drafts [07:12:35] Cullen Jennings joins the room [07:13:18] Did the streaming audio get fixed ? [07:13:35] still no audio [07:15:27] mlm.michael.miller joins the room [07:15:59] Slide: Liaisons received [07:17:32] Alissa Cooper joins the room [07:18:08] AltumSE joins the room [07:18:23] Next presentation: Rapid Acquisition for Multicast RTP Sessions [07:19:01] Slide: Recap: Proposed Approach [07:19:51] Slide: Major Changes since Individual Version -03 [07:21:14] Slide: Rapid Acquisition [07:21:44] Slide: Control Plane [07:22:48] Slide: RAMS Request [07:23:07] Slide: RAMS Information [07:25:15] Slide: RAMS Termination [07:26:08] richard.barnes joins the room [07:26:16] Slide: Control Plane -- Extensions [07:26:32] sorry, which preso are we on? [07:26:40] Alissa Cooper leaves the room [07:26:46] Rapid Acquisition for Multicast RTP Sessions [07:26:49] thanks [07:26:55] Slide: Open Issues [07:27:03] alpha_h joins the room [07:29:02] At the mic: Ye-Kui Wang [07:29:47] baboba joins the room [07:30:56] Olle E. Johansson, Sollentuna, Sweden (GMT+1 DST) joins the room [07:31:09] At the mic: Ali Begen [07:32:28] Ye-Kui still at the other mic [07:33:40] TomTaylor joins the room [07:33:44] Alfred Heggestad joins the room [07:33:57] Is there still no audio? [07:34:02] none [07:34:38] Tom: can you confirm with the tech what URL he thinks it's streaming from? If he thinks it's working, maybe the URL on the tools page is wrong [07:34:48] mlm.michael.miller leaves the room [07:36:00] Next presentation: Port Mapping for retransmission (Roni Even) [07:36:26] They're debugging. Something is going wrong in the handoff between this site and the ISP [07:36:33] Slide: Problem description (1) [07:38:09] Slide: Problem description (2) [07:39:19] Slide: Problem Summary [07:39:49] Going to the mic: Dave Oran [07:39:55] Dave Oran heading to the mike [07:41:16] Dave's point: need coordination between burst request and port mapping -- timing issue [07:42:09] State management problem -- can't agree ports too far in advance or you have to refresh for NATs. Additional point [07:43:06] vijay.gurbani joins the room [07:43:09] Slide: Proposed solutions [07:43:15] -- servers don't want to carry long-term receiver state [07:43:44] mlm.michael.miller joins the room [07:44:54] At the mic: Colin Perkins [07:46:09] Summary: do we need a general solution or is this needed only for this particular case? [07:46:34] And if we go for a general solution, should it be done in RTCP or elsewhere? [07:47:19] Slide: example w/o Muxing [07:48:06] To the list [07:49:27] It seems that streaming has just been fixed [07:49:44] thanks folks! [07:49:46] Excellent! Let us know if there are further problems [07:50:06] At the mic: Colin Perkins [07:52:52] At the mic: Dave Oran [07:53:17] alpha_h leaves the room [07:56:04] Any one else having problems with the audio still [07:58:38] Slide: Synchronized Playback in RAMS (Ye-Kui Wang) [07:58:59] Sorry, Peilin Yang is presenting [07:59:16] Slide: The issue induced by RAMS [07:59:55] audio is not working for me [08:00:09] seems like all the other streams are working, but not stream02 [08:00:21] I believe AVT is stream07? [08:00:34] No, I'm wrong, sorry [08:00:53] Emil: is it still working for you/ [08:01:02] it is. i have it on stream05 though [08:01:05] Slide: The total inter-user playback delay [08:01:31] in which room is AVT meeting ? [08:01:37] Audio now working stream02 [08:01:49] We are in Congresshall C [08:02:03] Slide: Reducing the playback delay [08:02:34] ok, stream02 is working now :) [08:02:39] thanks [08:02:51] yes it is [08:02:57] At mic: Bill Ver Steeg: Cisco has IPR on this [08:03:19] TomTaylor leaves the room [08:03:30] Slide: Advantages of the proposal [08:03:38] At mic: Ali Begen [08:04:42] stripes.taa leaves the room [08:04:53] stripes.taa joins the room [08:06:53] At mic: Ye-Kui Wang [08:07:57] martin.ellis@jabber.org joins the room [08:11:32] At mic: Ashok Narayanan [08:11:38] At mic: Colin Perkins [08:14:42] At mic: Ye-Kui Wang [08:14:49] At mic: Dave Oran [08:17:05] Olle E. Johansson, Sollentuna, Sweden (GMT+1 DST) leaves the room [08:18:55] Next presentation: Improved Rapid Acquisition of Multicast Sessions (Ye-Kui Wang) [08:19:21] Slide: Problem #1 [08:20:28] Slide: Problem #2 [08:21:03] Slide: Problem #3 [08:22:19] Slide: Solution (1/2) [08:23:15] Slide: Solution (2/2) [08:25:00] Slide: Advantages of the proposal [08:25:17] richard.barnes leaves the room [08:25:28] At the mic: Bill Ver Steeg [08:26:32] At the mic: Ali Begen [08:27:46] At the mic: why twice the media bandwidth is possible [08:27:55] Sorry, shoud be "slide" [08:28:07] At the mic: Colin Perkins [08:30:24] vijay.gurbani leaves the room [08:34:48] At the mic: Ali Begen [08:35:59] Presentation: Multicast Acquisition: RTCP-XR [08:36:16] Ali Begen [08:36:20] Slide: Introduction [08:36:48] Slide: MA Report Block -- Base Report [08:37:56] Slide: MA Report Block -- Extensions (Optional) [08:38:04] Slide: Vendor-Neutral Extensions [08:39:43] Slide: SDP Signaling [08:39:53] Slide: Discussion on the List [08:41:45] Slide: Next Steps [08:41:56] At mic: Bill Ver Steeg [08:42:53] Next Presentation: Audio Level Indications in RTP Streams [08:43:25] Slide: Where we come from [08:44:31] Slide: Where we come from (AVT) [08:45:04] Slide: The problem (part 1) [08:45:51] Slide: Why? 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