[16:06:24] h-suzuki joins the room [16:07:22] velt joins the room [16:07:26] Ulrich Herberg joins the room [16:07:36] I will be the jabber scribe [16:08:11] minutes taker is Emmanuel Baccelli [16:08:21] slide Practicalities [16:08:24] wmhaddad joins the room [16:08:26] slide Agenda [16:09:02] Thomas Heide Clausen joins the room [16:09:08] slide WG status update [16:09:17] Ryuji: thanks DT and editors for efforts on document [16:09:34] slide WG charter [16:10:09] Thomas: we have accomplished charter [16:10:13] slide The Future? [16:11:17] goal: within couple of weeks strawman of charter update [16:11:44] Thomas Narten at mic [16:12:05] Jabber-folks: any of you who are *not* following the audio-cast? [16:12:39] Thomas Clausen at mic [16:13:06] Charles Perkins at mic [16:15:15] Emmanuel Baccelli presents [16:15:36] slide GenArt & IESG reviews [16:15:41] (slide 2) [16:15:49] dperkins3600@gmail.com joins the room [16:16:51] slide 3 [16:17:09] Erik Nordmark at mic [16:17:17] Which slides are being shown? [16:18:08] "Adhoc IP Addressing" [16:20:00] Emmanuel Baccelli at mic [16:21:06] Teco Boot at mic [16:22:32] Fred Templin presents [16:22:50] RANGER, VET, SEAL slides [16:23:00] some mic problems... [16:23:56] slide Recursion (RANGER) - RFC5720 [16:25:16] slide How RANGER works [16:25:26] teco.boot joins the room [16:26:47] slide Virtual Enterprise Traversal (VET) [16:27:32] slide How VET Works [16:29:28] slide Subnetwork Encapsulation and Adaptation Layer (SEAL) [16:29:39] There is some problem with getting to tools.ietf.org, so download of presentation is really slow (21kb/s), but audio is good. [16:30:47] henningrogge joins the room [16:30:52] slide How SEAL works [16:31:07] slide The Internet Routing Overlay Network [16:32:38] Zach Shelby presents [16:33:45] Which slides? [16:34:12] I don't see them either [16:35:09] slide ND optimized for LLNs [16:35:33] Is there a URL for the slides? [16:35:36] They came by email this night (late), I just saw them now. Are uploading. [16:36:03] the ranger/vet/seal slides are huge... (13+ MB, takes more than 10 minutes to download ^^) [16:36:33] I apologize, I got the ppt and simply created the pdf. Uploading them also took 10+ min last night over the in-hotel wireless. [16:37:13] Teco Boot at mic [16:39:22] slide without title but many clouds, routers, hosts... [16:39:52] slide Basic Operation [16:40:10] link for the slides ? [16:40:17] they are not yet online [16:40:21] Thomas is uploading them [16:42:39] slide Duplicate Address detection [16:42:42] The slides are on-line for a bit. Found the URL, or are the IETF servers slow at updating [16:42:53] http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/10mar/slides/autoconf-8.pdf [16:42:56] (otherwise) [16:43:12] thank you [16:43:33] slide Multihop prefix distribution [16:45:41] slide Put it all together... [16:47:21] Stan Ratcliff at mic [16:48:20] Erik Nordmark at mic [16:49:26] Stan R. again [16:50:36] Zach Shelby at mic [16:51:45] Stan R. at mic [16:52:23] [16:53:52] (did not understand the name if the last person at the mic, a new attendee) [16:54:27] Charles Perkins at mic [16:56:23] Emmanuel Baccelli at mic [16:58:41] Charles Perkins at mic [16:58:52] Zach Shelby at mic [16:59:33] Slides for next topic ("Survey of IP Address Autoconfiguration mechanisms for MANETs"): http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/10mar/slides/autoconf-1.pdf [16:59:49] presenter is Hassnaa Moutafa [17:00:17] (audio quality is OK?) [17:00:40] slide Outline [17:00:46] yes, I think so [17:00:51] Yes! and got slides - thanks! [17:01:22] slide Draft History [17:02:00] slide Introduction and motivation [17:02:40] slide Classification Properties (I) [17:03:24] slide Classification Properties ( II ) [17:04:23] slide Classification Properties ( III ) [17:04:50] slide Classification Properties ( IV ) [17:05:25] slide Next Steps [17:06:03] slide A question to the WG? [17:06:28] Charles Perkins at mic [17:06:50] Thomas Clausen at mic (without chair hat) [17:08:07] Ulrich at the mike [17:09:11] Slides for next topic "Ad Hoc IP Autoconfiguration Solution Space Analysis" http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/10mar/slides/autoconf-0.pdf [17:09:11] new slide set: Ad-Hoc IP Autoconfiguration Solution Space Analysis [17:09:37] slide outline [17:10:06] slide A bit of history [17:11:01] slide Goals [17:11:46] slide Issues of MANET autoconf solutions [17:12:32] slide IP autoconf solution space analysis ( 1 ) [17:13:04] slide IP autoconf solution space analysis ( 2 ) [17:13:49] slide Next (possible) steps [17:14:24] Thomas Clausen at mic [17:16:41] slide A question to the WG [17:17:37] presentation of Charles Perkins [17:17:46] "Autoconf via XREQ/XREP" [17:18:11] change in the agenda... Teco will speak after Charlie [17:18:17] Autoconf via XREQ/XREP: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/10mar/slides/autoconf-3.pdf [17:18:32] slide Scenarios - gateway or standalone [17:19:48] Uploaded agenda changed to reflect actual agenda [17:20:48] slide Want an address? Just ask! [17:23:03] slide Standalone [17:24:33] slide Gateway operation [17:25:31] colin.oflynn joins the room [17:25:58] slide Mobile IP [17:26:53] slide Contributors [17:28:13] presenter is Teco Boot [17:28:24] BRDP based Address Autoconfiguration [17:28:54] slide History and status [17:29:33] Slides at: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/10mar/slides/autoconf-2.pdf [17:29:57] rjncgh joins the room [17:30:27] slide Scenario 1 [17:31:39] slide Scenario 2 [17:33:30] slide Scenario 3 [17:34:21] question by Thomas Clausen [17:36:30] Zach Shelby at mic [17:37:42] Comment: scenario 2/3 is exactly what we are having/moving to in the Freifunk/Funkfeuer networks [17:40:24] (we are deploying experimental software in the near future to allow scenario three get working with IPv6) [17:41:53] slide How does it work? [17:43:56] slide BRDP BRIO flooding without scoping [17:44:27] slide BRDP BRIO flooding with scoping [17:45:21] slide BRIO format [17:45:32] Comment: I see a problem flooding the information only through a part of the network because "better gateway" might be different things for different nodes in the network [17:46:28] slide MANET Address generation [17:48:12] slide Address generation [17:48:24] Zach Shelby at mic [17:52:40] Thomas Clausen at mic (without chair-hat) [17:57:39] Ulrich to present, taking over [17:57:40] Last slide-deck: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/10mar/slides/autoconf-5.pdf [17:57:47] Thanks, Ronald! [17:57:51] slide 2 [17:58:43] slide 3 [17:59:08] slide 4 [18:00:02] slide 5 [18:00:51] charlie P. at mic [18:02:18] rjncgh leaves the room [18:02:18] sorry, have to leave... cu [18:02:20] henningrogge leaves the room [18:02:57] slide 6 [18:03:00] rjncgh joins the room [18:03:03] colin.oflynn leaves the room [18:03:14] slide 7 [18:03:31] slide 8 [18:03:46] slide 9 [18:04:19] slide 10 [18:05:01] slide 11 [18:05:55] Hasnaa M. at mic [18:07:03] (slide 10 again) [18:07:35] slide11 [18:09:07] Charlie P. at mic [18:10:34] Zach Shelby at mic [18:11:27] Charles P. at mic [18:11:58] Jari Arkko at mic [18:16:37] Stan Ratcliff at mic [18:17:26] Ryuji Wakikawa at mic (without chair-hat) [18:18:32] Emmanuel Baccelli at mic [18:19:24] dperkins3600@gmail.com leaves the room [18:20:08] wmhaddad leaves the room [18:21:33] Charles Perkins at mic [18:23:59] Teco Boot at mic [18:25:48] Christopher Dearlove at mic [18:26:26] Jari Arkko at mic [18:29:14] Charles Perkins at mic [18:29:54] Jari Arkko at mic [18:30:18] Charles Perkins at mic [18:30:43] Jari Arkko at mic [18:31:03] Ryuji Wakikawa at mic (without chair-hat) [18:32:45] Emmanue Baccelli was t=at mic [18:32:52] Jari Arkko at mic [18:33:59] teco.boot leaves the room [18:34:55] session closed [18:35:01] h-suzuki leaves the room [18:35:02] Ulrich Herberg leaves the room [18:35:30] dperkins3600@gmail.com joins the room [18:36:46] rjncgh leaves the room [18:40:26] Thomas Heide Clausen leaves the room [18:40:39] dperkins3600@gmail.com leaves the room [18:45:47] velt leaves the room [19:10:40] Thomas Heide Clausen joins the room [19:25:33] Thomas Heide Clausen leaves the room