[18:11:40] robmgl joins the room [19:06:52] Woj.Dec joins the room [19:09:03] hello [19:09:10] Agenda Bashing [19:10:12] Tom commented on MIB document [19:10:21] not clear how it relates to ANCP work [19:10:31] more comments to follow on the alias [19:11:34] framework doc [19:11:40] authors not in the room [19:11:51] Matthew to run through the updates [19:11:51] lion joins the room [19:12:26] anybody in the jabber room listening to the audio? [19:12:49] Mark Townsley joins the room [19:13:11] lion, robmgl, are you joining from MN or Hawaii? [19:13:25] overview of Multicast changes in framework [19:14:42] question on delegation - is mcast bandwidth it the only delegation ? [19:14:50] answer; so far yes [19:16:28] no, i can't listen the audio, and neigher MN nor Hawaii [19:18:12] discussion re framework last call [19:18:36] no feedback re gaps between the ANCP framework and BBF's WT-147 [19:18:42] request made on both sides [19:18:56] I'm in hawaii no audio only jabber [19:19:12] running conclusion is that there is no gap [19:19:53] we have almost finished straw ballot for WT-147 [19:20:15] call for volunteers to review framework draft [19:20:23] I can do [19:20:33] me too [19:21:23] Wonder why audio isn't working? [19:21:51] framework doc going into WG last call [19:21:52] I didn't try I'm following the BBF discussion in parallel... [19:21:58] need 5 reviewers [19:22:09] we have 4 so far [19:22:16] and likely Sven [19:22:21] more are welcome [19:22:38] sorry I mean I didn't use the audio. for clarify from my side.:-) [19:22:39] volunteers so far; Robmgl, Lion, Tom, Francois [19:22:44] call to go the wg alias [19:26:47] Alan kavangh will also review the draft [19:30:43] hi Woj, Alan K here, I also volunteer to review the draft. [19:39:06] hello? [19:45:51] lion leaves the room: Computer went to sleep [19:52:44] ok. noted [19:55:51] lion - could you indicate who you are (for reference in the minutes)? [19:56:29] onto mcast [19:56:47] I presnted the protocol update [19:57:03] fair amount of discussion about protocol capability negotiation [19:57:10] preference for option 1 [19:57:20] no opponents [19:57:53] lion joins the room [19:58:06] lion - could you indicate who you are (for reference in the minutes)? [19:59:29] john.zhao [20:01:34] thanks [20:02:01] on slide 6 of mcast deck [20:11:07] lion leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [20:11:17] lion joins the room [20:12:25] discussion on ipv4 and ipv6 in multicast service profile; does anybody see a case for a mix of the two? [20:12:36] in the room - no body saw that as useful [20:13:07] the provisioning message carrying th service profile is meant to be applied to the AN. [20:13:13] I don't see any case for a mix [20:13:24] port configuration messages used to apply the profile to the line [20:14:47] another point raised was whether the IPver field can be moved up, ie if all the contents are IPv4 then it doesn't need to feature against every S, G entry [20:15:37] back to slide 10 [20:15:45] comment that length field should be included [20:16:37] comment withdrawn [20:16:47] length field seems to be there [20:17:03] discussion onto slide 12 now [20:17:16] slide 13 [20:17:30] correction to the draft [20:17:40] re transaction id in response [20:17:51] it's not copied from the request [20:18:00] slide 14 [20:18:26] Lot's of progress folks... Good to see meeting time used to make decisions [20:22:11] discussion on next steps [20:23:45] comment on service profiles [20:23:52] length still needed [20:24:03] is the comment being made [20:24:11] length in sub tlv [20:28:38] nobody in the room is unhappy with the direction taken by the mcast extensions draft [20:28:55] great! [20:29:07] good premise for it becoming a WG ID [20:29:24] to be proposed to the list [20:29:41] after the revision with the corrections [20:29:50] a separate doc? not included in the protocol draft? [20:30:00] yes [20:30:16] the protocol draft option remains valid too [20:30:41] onto vendor specific extsnions discussion [20:31:03] Peter not here... David presenting on his behalf [20:44:19] http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-iesg-vendor-extensions-02.txt [20:44:26] Sent email to the list as well. [20:44:51] things to clarify re vendor specific extensions [20:45:40] trojan horse aspect; tlv or cross tlv numbering scheme; multiple vendors in the same tlv [20:45:47] onto PON discussion [21:00:45] Mark Townsley leaves the room [21:02:59] fair amount of interest in progressing PON [21:03:12] 3-4 hands raised [21:03:52] authors of PON to come back with a new revision [21:03:53] Mark Townsley joins the room [21:04:25] end of meeting [21:05:04] bye [21:05:07] lion leaves the room [21:05:30] robmgl leaves the room [21:05:34] lion joins the room [21:12:00] lion leaves the room: Computer went to sleep [21:28:45] Woj.Dec leaves the room [21:47:50] lion joins the room [21:49:27] lion leaves the room [23:24:47] Mark Townsley leaves the room [23:57:25] Mark Townsley joins the room [23:57:46] Mark Townsley leaves the room [23:58:23] Mark Townsley joins the room [23:59:43] Mark Townsley leaves the room