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[14:09:56] <Jan Seedorf> Can anyone hear me?
[14:10:03] <Tobia Castaldi> Nope
[14:10:05] <J. Zhang> no
[14:10:07] <Sebastian Kiesel> no
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[14:10:14] <Jan Seedorf> What do I need to do?
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[14:10:23] <Tobia Castaldi> click the mic icon
[14:10:31] <Sebastian Kiesel> "send audio"
[14:10:40] <Sebastian Kiesel> rightmost of the four icons
[14:11:00] <Sebastian Kiesel> yes
[14:11:04] <Tobia Castaldi> yes
[14:11:07] <Sebastian Kiesel> i can hear and see you!
[14:11:10] <Tobia Castaldi> we can hear you
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[14:11:53] <Vijay Gurbani> I did turn on send audio
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[14:13:10] <Tobia Castaldi> actually we never close rooms automatically, we wait for an active "close the room" command.
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[14:14:12] <Martin Duke> the meetecho chat is jabber
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[14:15:37] <Sebastian Kiesel> we can see the slides
[14:15:41] <J. Zhang> yes, i can
[14:15:49] <江 威> yes ,i can
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[14:26:25] <Jan Seedorf> I might quickly log off and on again to check if I can see the shared slides
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[14:27:41] <Jan Seedorf> Ok, I am back and can now see the slides shared by Vijay
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[14:33:04] <Martin Duke> there is someone in the queue
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[14:37:04] <Danny Perez> yes
[14:37:13] <Danny Perez> I can see the slides
[14:37:14] <Kai Gao> I can see the slides of performance metrics.
[14:37:18] <J. Zhang> i can see the slides, title page
[14:37:19] <Qiao Xiang> I can  see
[14:37:20] <Farni Boten> i can see
[14:37:21] <Tobia Castaldi> I ccan see
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[15:27:52] <Jan Seedorf> I think we will stop after 8 1-sliders and ten go into the discussion
[15:27:57] <Jan Seedorf> then
[15:28:06] <Jan Seedorf> Vijay, you agree?
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[15:30:36] <Vijay Gurbani> Farni, please cue yourself up next.
[15:30:48] <Vijay Gurbani> We'll come back to you next
[15:31:58] <Lyle Bertz> she is getting a permission denied...
[15:32:05] <Jan Seedorf> too bad
[15:32:13] <Jan Seedorf> is there something I can do?
[15:32:28] <Tobia Castaldi> os-level restriction enforced by MacOS Catalina. You cannot share your devices (mic and webcam) if the browser you're using is not flagged-in in System Preferences &gt;&gt; Privacy Settings
[15:32:39] <Vijay Gurbani> logging out and in seems to help.
[15:33:37] <Farni Boten> Lyle will speak for me.  i am unable to speak!
[15:33:53] <Jan Seedorf> I am sorry about that Farni!
[15:33:59] <Jan Seedorf> Ok for Lyle to take over
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[15:34:20] <Lyle Bertz> just jump back when it comes to my slide which is the last one
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[15:34:24] <Lyle Bertz> or whenever
[15:34:32] <Vijay Gurbani> ok
[15:34:37] <Jan Seedorf> I think whenever as I am not sure we will reach the last slide
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[15:35:02] <Jan Seedorf> Vijay: let's cut at 17:40 and then have ten minutes left for discussion and conclusion, ok?
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[15:35:12] <Vijay Gurbani> ok
[15:35:14] <Jan Seedorf> that is in 5 minutes
[15:35:17] <Lyle Bertz> let us hope I do not suffer the same fate as Farni!
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[15:35:32] <Jan Seedorf> fingers crossed
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[15:42:04] <Martin Duke> the chairs need to admit people from the queue
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[15:48:14] <Lyle Bertz> Martin is in the queue
[15:49:00] <Lyle Bertz> i think that is a good idea
[15:49:07] <Martin Duke> people are waiting in the queue
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[15:50:24] <Andre Bondi> I think it would be useful to describe how metrics tie back to use cases and how they inform us about network usage and use case impact.
[15:51:02] <Martin Duke> andre you are offering to share your screen, not talk
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[15:52:58] <Lyle Bertz> is this correct? 1. narrow down work (combine by themes) 2. try to recharter prior to next IETF meeting
[15:53:19] <Andre Bondi> Sorry!
[15:54:28] <Andre Bondi> I just wanted to offer metric experience as I mentioned in the chat entry above.
[15:54:40] <Martin Duke> the next deliverable is a draft charter, which requires some downselect and consensus gathering
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[15:54:48] <Sebastian Kiesel> jan's proposal sounds reasonable
[15:55:11] <Lyle Bertz> agreed
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[15:57:54] <Danny Perez> thank you, bye
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[15:58:10] <J. Zhang> thanks, everyone
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[15:58:16] <Kai Gao> Thanks and see you in the mailing list!
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[15:58:17] <Sebastian Kiesel> thank you and bye!
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