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[07:59:09] <renzoe> hi Justin, I will propose to be the jaber scribe
[07:59:13] <renzoe> we are waiting for hannes
[08:01:17] <renzoe>     we start (without hannes)
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[08:03:50] <renzoe> started
[08:04:04] <Justin Richer> thanks, renzoe. Audio and video are up and running!
[08:04:51] <renzoe> cool. so  you have video.
[08:05:23] <Justin Richer> yes
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[08:09:32] <renzoe> mic: carsten
[08:10:23] <Erik Wahlstrom> no video of carsten, still on Kepeng and Hannes. Not bad, but not perfect :)
[08:10:32] <renzoe> yes carsten was on regular mic
[08:10:36] <Erik Wahlstrom> aaa
[08:11:16] <renzoe> Ludwig starts: * Authorization using OAuth 2.0 (Ludwig, 45 min)
[08:11:25] <renzoe> slides: - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ace-oauth-authz/
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[08:11:33] <Justin Richer> Can't see ludwig
[08:12:06] <renzoe> ok I will sy
[08:12:24] <renzoe> its ok?
[08:12:31] <Carsten Bormann> Meetecho: focus on speaker
[08:12:37] <Robin Wilton> @meetecho please can you point the video at the pink box (Ludwig Seitz)?
[08:12:46] <Meetecho> please do NOT touch the cam manually
[08:12:46] <Robin Wilton> thx
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[08:12:50] <Meetecho> we control it remotely
[08:12:52] <renzoe> ok
[08:12:55] <Meetecho> mention us and we fix the aim
[08:13:16] <Justin Richer> @meetecho: ok, didn't know about the mention mechanism, will use that from now on
[08:13:33] <Meetecho> when you mention us we're alerted loudly and we run to the rescue ;)
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[08:13:43] <Robin Wilton> @justin we learned about it during the ACME session ;^)
[08:13:50] <Meetecho> which is helpful as we monitor 8 sessions at a time and it's easy to miss feedback otherwise
[08:25:57] <Justin Richer> mic: shouldn't we use a different parameter name for the key ID? what about "kid"?
[08:26:56] <Justin Richer> thanks
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[08:27:56] <renzoe> (no need to, its my  "job")
[08:30:28] <renzoe> at the mic was me renzo
[08:30:40] <Erik Wahlstrom> :)
[08:31:21] <renzoe> mic goeran
[08:36:22] <renzoe> mic; kepeng
[08:37:18] <renzoe> mic: mike jones
[08:39:54] <renzoe> mic: goeran
[08:41:01] <renzoe> mic : carsten
[08:43:20] <renzoe> mic : carsten
[08:44:27] <renzoe> mic: göran
[08:46:11] <renzoe> mic: carsten
[08:48:54] <renzoe> mic: goeran
[08:49:52] <Carsten Bormann> renzoe: please don't use "mic" for "at the mike" — it already is being used for "please relay to the mic"
[08:50:04] <renzoe> ok
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[08:53:24] <renzoe> start:  CBOR Web Token (Mike, 15 mins)
[08:53:37] <renzoe> slides:  https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ace-cbor-web-token/
[08:55:33] <renzoe> @the mike: ludwig
[08:57:01] <Justin Richer> mic: Shouldn't this document define the claims that are in the registry, not in the RFC?
[08:57:20] <Justin Richer> mic: That is, start the new registry with the content of the JWT registry
[08:59:09] <Justin Richer> +1 agree with Hannes
[08:59:16] <Justin Richer> "cnf" in particular
[08:59:34] <Justin Richer> putting it in a secondary document doesn't make sense to me
[09:00:01] <renzoe> do I say that on the mic?
[09:00:19] <renzoe> the person at the mic now does not have a badge
[09:00:34] <sarahsquire> Brian is at the mike
[09:00:39] <renzoe> ok thanks
[09:01:09] <Justin Richer> renzoe no, just for notes and records here
[09:03:17] <renzoe> at the mike: jim schaad
[09:03:53] <Justin Richer> mic: it's being shepherded right now (speaking as COSE chair)
[09:04:04] <renzoe> at the mike: ludwig
[09:04:11] <Justin Richer> ^-- referring to the COSE draft
[09:04:51] <Carsten Bormann> Justin: "Stream — WG state <https://datatracker.ietf.org/help/state/draft/ietf> — In WG Last Call —
Document shepherd — No shepherd assigned"
[09:05:11] <Justin Richer> Carsten: Thanks, guess I need to go click a button
[09:05:18] <Carsten Bormann> Yes, please!
[09:05:28] <renzoe> I do relay te msg?
[09:06:30] <renzoe> OSCOAP profile of ACE (Ludwig, 15 min)
[09:06:38] <renzoe> slide: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-seitz-ace-ocsoap-profile/
[09:06:59] <jimsch1> Justin:  Yes I told Kepeng today that the button needed to be pressed so that the report can be uploaded.
[09:07:49] <Robin Wilton> @Justin thanks for your comment in the Etherpad :^)
[09:07:55] <Carsten Bormann> s/ocsoap/oscoap/ :-)
[09:09:10] <renzoe> sorry this is the draft: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-seitz-ace-oscoap-profile/
[09:09:29] <renzoe> slides: https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/slides/slides-96-ace-2.pdf
[09:10:55] <Justin Richer> @jimsch1: We're still waiting for the final writeup anyway. There are some editorial comments, you'll see them.
[09:11:39] <renzoe> at the mike: goeran
[09:12:17] <Justin Richer> @Robin: I haven't touched the etherpad, must be a doppelganger
[09:13:22] <renzoe> Its me, Im putting the things for the mic from jabber on the etherpad (basically justin)
[09:13:40] <renzoe> at the mike: goeran
[09:15:10] <renzoe> at the mike: goeran
[09:17:35] <renzoe> (kepeng)
[09:18:25] <renzoe> at the mike: carsten
[09:19:59] <renzoe> Hannes  presents: "Security for Low Latency Group Communication"
[09:20:15] <renzoe> slides: https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/slides/slides-96-ace-6.pdf
[09:25:08] <renzoe> at the mike was renzo (me)
[09:27:24] <renzoe> at the mike: carrey  (?) linn
[09:27:29] <renzoe> kerry
[09:28:50] <renzoe> at the mike: carsten
[09:31:58] <renzoe> at the mike. Mike stjohns
[09:32:02] <renzoe> before was me
[09:37:31] <renzoe> at the mike: goeran selander
[09:38:22] <renzoe> at the mike: mike stjohns
[09:39:12] <renzoe> at the mike: zach
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[09:40:28] <renzoe> at the mike: mike stjohns
[09:40:48] <renzoe> at the mike: sach shelby
[09:41:41] <renzoe> (long line at the mic 4 persons)
[09:42:37] <renzoe> at the mike: mohit
[09:43:25] <renzoe> at the mike: subir das
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[09:45:48] <renzoe> at the mike: oscar garcia (phillips)
[09:46:00] <renzoe> (today a lot of people are not wearing badges)
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[09:48:23] <renzoe> at the mike: mohit
[09:48:30] <renzoe> at the mike: goeran
[09:49:21] <renzoe> at the mike: subir das
[09:50:42] <renzoe> at the mike! oscar garcia
[09:51:32] <renzoe> hum for yes
[09:51:43] <renzoe> now its no
[09:52:03] <renzoe> justin
[09:52:12] <renzoe> its hands
[09:52:22] <renzoe> objection
[09:52:22] <Justin Richer> no vote from me
[09:52:38] <renzoe> 20 hands yes; 5 for no
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[09:52:53] <Robin Wilton> Conclusion: no-voters hum louder ;^)
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[09:53:03] <resnick> That sounds like significant objection to me. No consensus.
[09:53:10] <renzoe> haha; yes, much more
[09:53:14] <renzoe> at the mike: carsten
[09:54:02] <renzoe> resnik you whant that at the mic?
[09:54:13] <resnick> Nope. Would have said so if I did.
[09:54:18] <renzoe> ok
[09:55:00] <renzoe> at the mike: jim schaad
[09:55:11] <resnick> The chair or AD should probably say that, but it’s not my call. :-)
[09:55:43] <renzoe> it was katleen moriarty that suggested doing hands
[09:56:38] <renzoe> at the mike: ludwig
[09:57:03] <resnick> Oh, 20 in favor and 5 against looks like significant objection to me, and I would conclude no consensus on the basis of the hands too.
[09:57:45] <renzoe> (3 in line, they cut the line)
[09:57:50] <renzoe> at the mike: mike stjohns
[09:58:00] <resnick> But I wrote 7282, so I have some opinion on that. ;-)
[09:58:11] <renzoe> @resnick: ok I see your point
[09:58:58] <renzoe> at the mike:  Oscar garcia from philips
[10:00:14] <renzoe> was votation for reviez
[10:00:17] <renzoe> review*
[10:00:21] <renzoe> now for contributing
[10:00:22] <Robin Wilton> (about 50% of the room raised their hands to indicate they felt they understood the problem area)
[10:00:42] <Robin Wilton> about 10 raised their hands to review
[10:00:52] <renzoe> at the mike: ludwig
[10:01:24] <renzoe> at the mike pete resnick
[10:01:58] <renzoe> at the mike: kathleen moriarty
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[10:03:12] <renzoe> now: privacy enhanced tokens for authorization in ACE
[10:03:24] <renzoe> slides: https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/slides/slides-96-ace-3.pdf
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[10:11:18] <renzoe> at the mike: ludwig
[10:12:54] <renzoe> at the mike: carsten
[10:14:01] <renzoe> now: Ephemeral Diffie-Hellman Over COSE (Goeran, 15 min)
[10:14:19] <renzoe> slides: https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/slides/slides-96-ace-5.pdf
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[10:24:53] <renzoe> at the mike: subir das
[10:26:53] <renzoe> (kepeng)
[10:27:49] <renzoe> at the mike: carsten
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[10:28:33] <renzoe> at the mike: michael richardson
[10:30:46] <renzoe> at the mike: kathleen
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[10:31:16] <renzoe> session is finished
[10:31:19] <renzoe> thank you
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