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[07:01:13] <Jose Gato> Good morning everybody
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[07:06:10] <Robin Wilton> Hi - Robin Wilton here; I'll be channelling from the Jabber session
[07:06:21] <Robin Wilton> Anything you'd like relayed to the mic, just let me know
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[07:06:55] <Jose Gato> thank you Robin
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[07:30:07] <Kathleen Moriarty> Can the remote attendees see Carsten OK?  He's popping out of the pink box and I want to make sure it's ok
[07:30:37] <Jose Gato> it is ok
[07:30:41] <Kathleen Moriarty> thanks
[07:30:56] <Michael Richardson> hummmmm
[07:31:12] <Robin Wilton> @kathleen (that's a phrase I probably never needed to read  ;^o)
[07:31:52] <Robin Wilton> @michael what was your hum for, and would you like it relayed?
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[07:36:42] <Michael Richardson> it was that I had read the document.
[07:37:47] <Robin Wilton> Thank you :)
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[07:45:53] <Michael Richardson> mic: of course, anyone can do a DOS attack with (D)TLS init messages, and also can continuously try the "authorization"
[07:46:36] <Robin Wilton> ack
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[07:48:09] <Robin Wilton> @michael hang in there… I'm in the mic line
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[08:28:01] <Michael Richardson> who was the speaker at the line?
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[08:28:17] <Michael Richardson> (Mr. 2%)
[08:29:05] <Michael Richardson> I read the document a year ago.
[08:29:37] <cabo> I never understand him saying his name, Malisˇa Vucˇinic ́ maybe?
[08:30:04] <cabo> http://arxiv.org/pdf/1404.7799.pdf
[08:30:14] <Robin Wilton> @cabo Yes - that's the spelling that was on an earlier slide
[08:30:56] <ob> He's co-author of https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-seitz-ace-core-authz with the OSCAR model
[08:31:49] <cabo> Yes, but the ASCII document has only a poor approximation of his name…
[08:34:57] <Robin Wilton> Mališa Vučinić (hoping those characters survive the translation process to &YourClientDevice)
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[09:07:28] <mcr2> mic: the initial secret initialization problem is now properly the work of the ANIMA WG Bootstrap Design Team.
[09:07:53] <Robin Wilton> ack
[09:07:58] <mcr2> Max said it already.
[09:08:09] <Robin Wilton> ok - thanks
[09:08:33] <Robin Wilton> Is mcr2 Michael Richardson by another name, by the way?
[09:09:45] <Robin Wilton> (you're free to maintain pseudonymity if you prefer… just asking because it makes life easier for the minute-taker)
[09:10:29] <mcr2> Robin, yes.  This is my normal jabber client.
[09:10:36] <Robin Wilton> thx Michael
[09:10:43] <mcr2> (vs the identity that Meetecho insists on providing me)
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[09:12:14] <Meetecho> you're free to join as John Doe if you want... we were asked for a blue sheet kind of join and that's what we provided :)
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[09:19:57] <Michael Richardson> Meetecho, actually, I'd rather just not have to be in the chat at all, since I have another client.
[09:20:13] <Meetecho> ah got it
[09:20:25] <Meetecho> we have an alternative interface without jabber, but it has no video, just slides
[09:20:38] <Meetecho> it's the webinar mode that appears at the bottom of the page when asked to join
[09:20:51] <argsdsCe wsdtgE> i missed the name of the speaker and the draft he is talking about. Anyone can help me out?
[09:20:51] <Meetecho> (slides+audio)
[09:21:11] <ob> Privacy-Enhanced Tokens (Jorge Cuellar
[09:21:21] <ob> draft-cuellar-ace-pat-priv-enhanced-authz-tokens-00.txt
[09:21:24] <Robin Wilton> Jorge Cuellar
[09:21:25] <mcr2> an option to close the chat completely, recovering that part of the screen, and let me make the video + slides the same size would be nice.
[09:21:26] <Robin Wilton> https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-cuellar-ace-pat-priv-enhanced-authz-tokens-00.txt
[09:21:41] <Robin Wilton> Thanks @ob… fast fingers!
[09:21:59] <ob> C&P from the agenda;-)
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[09:25:47] <Eliot Lear> who was the woman who was speaking?
[09:26:01] <Eliot Lear> (please)
[09:26:08] <ob> Kathleen
[09:26:11] <Max Pritikin> kathleen moriarty
[09:26:19] <Eliot Lear> thanks.
[09:26:23] <Eliot Lear> (now i'm embarrased)
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[09:27:53] <Jose Gato> video and slides are gone?
[09:28:21] <hyunsik YANG> please check video...
[09:28:30] <Eliot Lear> lost all voice/video
[09:28:43] <Jose Gato> yes, now also video is out
[09:28:50] <Jose Gato> I meant audio
[09:29:09] <Robin Wilton> ack
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[09:29:29] <mcr2> audio gone for me too.
[09:29:30] <Max Pritikin> Current discussion is room polls for the following items (are people comfortable with):
ACRE 18
DCAF 15
Oauth/UMA 20
Privacy Tokens 13
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[09:29:55] <Max Pritikin> where the number is the number of hands of people that like/support the discussion
[09:29:59] <mcr2> meetecho crash.
[09:30:13] <mcr2> DCAF++.
[09:30:25] <mcr2> Not sure how I feel about the other items, but I don't object to them (at least not yet)
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[09:30:52] <cabo> I think most of the people who are really interested in this want to work on all these building blocks.
[09:30:54] <Robin Wilton> Apparently we ran out of meetecho time
[09:30:55] <mcr2> ah, we went over time, and meetecho closed the meeting.
[09:31:01] <jgato.luis> Trying to rejoin audio/video web app
[09:31:03] <jgato.luis> but I cannot...
[09:31:04] <hyunsik YANG> ah...
[09:31:11] <Max Pritikin> that we are overtime was just noted in the room
[09:31:14] <Robin Wilton> I'll relay comments via the mic as quick as possible
[09:31:18] <cabo> Some may be more useful in the end, but we have to work them out up to implementable level.
[09:31:26] <hyunsik YANG> Thanks
[09:31:46] <Robin Wilton> ack - am in the mic line, but so are others ;^\
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[09:32:37] <Robin Wilton> @cabo would you like to be called "cabo" or something else?
[09:32:55] <cabo> @Robin Wilton: My full name ist Carsten Bormann
[09:33:14] <Robin Wilton> @cabo Entschuldigung!
[09:33:33] <cabo> No reason… I forgot to configure my client...
[09:34:26] <Max Pritikin> current discussion is around the three models discussed:
Push Model
Pull Model
Client Pull Model
Folks queuing are effectively all voicing support for one, more or combinations of the models. e.g. Nobody has yet argued that there should be only one model. [hard to capture the conversation]
[09:34:51] <mcr2> My name is Michael Richardson. I am a standards-aholic. It has been three and a half months since my last IETF meeting.
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[09:35:24] <Robin Wilton> Thank you for sharing, Michael. Take a token. ;^)
[09:35:24] <cabo> Sorry, that was not a "Mic" comment… Just for posterity… (Sorry about misleading you.)
[09:35:40] <Max Pritikin> meeting closed. @mcr — you'll have to show next time.
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[09:36:15] <mcr2> Max, actually booked my ticket for IETF94 yesterday, now that the 6lo plugfest dates are set.
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