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[18:04:37] <ludwig.seitz> The sound quality from the chair's mic is very bad
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[18:07:28] <Erik Wahlstrom> presenters mic is not awesome either :) but it works.
[18:07:54] <ludwig.seitz> I suspect Kepeng was too close to the mic
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[18:09:52] <Karen Seo> Could you ask the chair to do something about his audio ?
[18:10:49] <ludwig.seitz> Do we have a Jabber scribe? Please "step forward"
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[18:11:49] <smemery> Is there a lot of noise coming from the chair's mic?
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[18:12:21] <Erik Wahlstrom> yes, and sometimes it even sounds like someone speaking :)
[18:12:34] <tlyu@mit.edu> it seems like the gain is way too high on the chair's mic
[18:13:50] <smemery> Hannes will speak farther from the mic now.
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[18:24:40] <ludwig.seitz> closer to the mic please
[18:24:52] <ludwig.seitz> (or louder)
[18:25:11] <ludwig.seitz> I cannot hear Carsten
[18:25:12] <smemery> mic doesn't appear to be on.
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[18:26:58] <ludwig.seitz> Much better, thank you!
[18:27:05] <Kathleen Moriarty> he switched mics
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[18:27:12] <Stefanie Gerdes> thanks
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[18:30:31] <Stefanie Gerdes> it would be easier to have this discussion after the actors draft presentation
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[18:33:06] <Stefanie Gerdes> Mic: I wonder why we use yet another term for CAM (CS) instead of just using the term CAM as proposed in the actors draft
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[18:35:03] <Kathleen Moriarty> Is someone going to the mic for jabber?
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[18:37:37] <ob> maybe we should say only "CS" because "configuration server" is really confusing
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[18:39:45] <Stefan Santesson> Hannes still eating his mike?
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[18:53:58] <ludwig.seitz> hummmm
[18:54:30] <Erik Wahlstrom> hummmmm
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[19:17:07] <Erik Wahlstrom> hummmmm
[19:17:13] <ludwig.seitz> hmmm
[19:17:15] <Stefanie Gerdes> hummmmm
[19:17:16] <Stefanie Gerdes> hummmmm
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[19:17:56] <tlyu@mit.edu> i hate oauth terminology, but please don't fragment the lexicon unnecessarily
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[19:18:33] <Erik Wahlstrom> Existing authorization servers and identity people know the words and already have concepts in running code.
[19:19:07] <Erik Wahlstrom> hummmmm
[19:19:11] <ludwig.seitz> hummmm
[19:19:16] <Stefanie Gerdes> hummmmm
[19:19:20] <ob> once it is clear what the problems are we are talking about, it is easier to re-use existing terminology wihtout surprises
[19:19:20] <Bill Mills> hummmmm
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[19:24:41] <smemery> UMA does a nice job in translating OAuth terminology.
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[19:27:58] <ob> @smemery: Indeed, but it's always the details that cause problems
[19:28:23] <ob> (honestly: did not check if they really do...)
[19:33:33] <ludwig.seitz> 8 byte authentication tag not 8 bit
[19:34:09] <ludwig.seitz> (or did I just misunderstand Jim?)
[19:36:52] <ludwig.seitz> Mic: We should try to determine whether this fits into ACE, CoRE or JOSE
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[19:37:48] <ludwig.seitz> hummm
[19:37:55] <Erik Wahlstrom> hummmmm
[19:38:20] <ludwig.seitz> Mic: We are missing a hum option to take this on in another WG
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[19:40:13] <ludwig.seitz> hummm
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[19:41:20] <ludwig.seitz> Mic: We have end-to-end usecases in the usecase draft
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[19:42:53] <Kathleen Moriarty> Sorry, we moved on, can you send that to the list?
[19:43:01] <ludwig.seitz> Yes
[19:43:17] <Kathleen Moriarty> I also encourage folks to go to JOSE for the COSE discussions
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[19:43:30] <Kathleen Moriarty> Thanks, Ludwig
[19:44:26] <ludwig.seitz> @Kathleen: Can you jog my memory on the name of the person to whom I was responding?
[19:45:12] <Kathleen Moriarty> It was the draft editor that said he didn't think they fit because the use cases in his draft were end-to-end.
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[19:46:28] <ludwig.seitz> The original comment was not by Goeran, someone else said he thought the end-to-end security use cases were important, I was responding this person
[19:46:31] <mcr> I guess we are going to have to define "shy" nodes.
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[19:49:02] <ob> @mcr: something along the lines of "cannot authenticate with SAM" -- e.g. because it does not check X.509 certificates
[19:50:32] <mcr> @ob: will we have a complete Myers–Briggs set of node personalities? :-)
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