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[00:16:19] <Stefanie Gerdes> mic: we really want to keep solutions out of the use cases document
[00:16:30] <Stephen Moore> The use case terminology should be a subset of the full lexicon
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[00:19:07] <Justin Richer> Stefanie Gerdes: nobody's in the mic line, want me to grab your comment for you?
[00:19:23] <Stephen Moore> Sure.
[00:19:28] <Stefanie Gerdes> if it is still useful
[00:20:03] <Justin Richer> I think it was a good point to end on
[00:20:08] <Stefanie Gerdes> thx
[00:20:14] <Michael Richardson> what was it I said that I agreed was out of scope?  Are we talking about enrollment? and/or initialization of the node/?AM relationship?  Yes, I can live with it being out of scope until we make progress and recharter.
[00:20:16] <Justin Richer> and I don't know who's supposed to be doing the reading here — I showed up 5min late
[00:20:48] <Michael Richardson> got to go do an interview....  I tried to get the minions to do them, but they demand supervision.
[00:22:03] <cabo> https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ace/current/msg00785.html
[00:22:16] <cabo> Michael: ___^
[00:28:05] <Erik Wahlstrom> mic: +1 agree with hannes regarding indirect
[00:29:32] <Barry Leiba> Erik: do you really want me to "mic" that?
[00:29:53] <Erik Wahlstrom> no. it's ok.
[00:29:56] <Barry Leiba> ok
[00:30:11] <Erik Wahlstrom> thanks anyway
[00:30:18] <Barry Leiba> :-)
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[00:38:54] <Erik Wahlstrom> mic: I think it's important to bind this to existing IAM. Hence, it's not a consideration that some solutions are tweeked for IoT. It's something good to aid adoption.
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[00:46:38] <ludwig.seitz> Carsten could you say two words about COSE for the audience that doesn't know about it?
[00:48:54] <cabo> Sure.
[00:49:02] <ludwig.seitz> MIC: Encryption has some repercussion on caching, which signature doesn't have
[00:49:33] <ludwig.seitz> (intended as answer to the "Why not Encryption?" question
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[00:51:58] <cabo> Ludwig: Was Derek's contribution enough?
[00:52:08] <ludwig.seitz> Yes, thanks
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[00:58:33] <ludwig.seitz> MIC: Why would I invest work in a document that doesn't get published?
[00:59:05] <Justin Richer> I would say publication doesn't necessarily mean RFC
[00:59:09] <Justin Richer> personally
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