6tisch - Tuesday, March 28, 2017

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Tuesday, March 28, 2017< ^ >

Thomas Watteyne has set the subject to: IETF 95 6TiSCH WG meeting

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[13:58:26] <mcr> I am the jabber scribe. Please prefix with mic: if you want it asked.
[13:58:30] <mcr> WHo is remote other than Thomas?
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[13:59:10] <Malisa Vucinic> I am
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[14:00:53] <Ines Robles_6914> I help here also
[14:00:55] <Ines Robles_6914> :)
[14:01:04] <Remy Leone> I am also
[14:01:18] <Thomas Watteyne> Xavi just pinged Pascal and myself, has trouble connecting. I might present the 6P slides
[14:01:49] <Christian Hopfner> perfect sound thomas
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[14:03:18] <Thomas Watteyne> thanks Christian
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[14:08:57] <Ines Robles_6914> Do you need to tell you the slides number?
[14:09:15] <Remy Leone> Could you send the link to the etherpad here?
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[14:09:34] <Ines Robles_6914> http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/6tisch?useMonospaceFont=true
[14:09:40] <Ines Robles_6914> http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/6tisch?useMonospaceFont=true
[14:10:21] <Remy Leone> Doesn't work for me. I got a connection closed
[14:10:37] <Ines Robles_6914> Try again please Remy
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[14:10:54] <Ines Robles_6914> if you go to etherpad, please pick up a colour and put your name, thanks
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[14:11:55] <Ines Robles_6914> Sorry
[14:11:58] <Ines Robles_6914> This is the correct one
[14:11:59] <Ines Robles_6914> http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/notes-ietf-98-6tisch?useMonospaceFont=true
[14:12:02] <Ines Robles_6914> please go here
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[14:12:03] <Ines Robles_6914> http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/notes-ietf-98-6tisch?useMonospaceFont=true
[14:12:32] <Ines Robles_6914> you should see 10 people logged ino
[14:12:37] <Ines Robles_6914> into Etherpad
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[14:14:05] <Simon Pietro Romano> Just as FYI...if you are on Meetecho, etherpad is embedded in the GUI (text document icon on the top right of the page)
[14:14:30] <Thomas Watteyne> @Remy, can you confirm?
[14:14:31] <Ines Robles_6914> Excellent, Thank you Simon
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[14:14:38] <Remy Leone> Yes in the GUI it works
[14:14:44] <Thomas Watteyne> perfect
[14:14:50] <Simon Pietro Romano> (Y)
[14:14:57] <Remy Leone> Thanks @Simon
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[14:16:21] <Ines Robles_6914> slide 4
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[14:25:51] <Thomas Watteyne> @Pascal, should I raise my hand to join the queue?
[14:26:55] <Thomas Watteyne> @Ines, can you ask Pascal to look at the chat?
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[14:28:33] <Thomas Watteyne> thanks
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[14:30:59] <Thomas Watteyne> nameof speaker?
[14:31:38] <Christian Hopfner> benjamin
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[14:32:27] <Ine Robles> right, Benjamin Damm at the mic
[14:32:27] <Ine Robles> thanks
[14:33:15] <Ine Robles> Mcr at mic
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[14:33:37] <Thomas Watteyne> thanks
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[14:34:04] <In Robles> Slide 13
[14:35:07] <Thomas Watteyne> @mic, will we have an op[portunity to talk about IP-IP vs. CoAP?
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[14:35:36] <Malisa Vucinic> there are some slides about that in minimal-security presentation
[14:35:51] <Thomas Watteyne> OK!
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[14:40:00] <In Robles> Max at mic
[14:40:18] <In Robles> Suresh at mic
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[14:43:41] <Thomas Watteyne> @mic: or you can have a configuration step
[14:44:58] <Thomas Watteyne> thanks Ines
[14:45:08] <In Robles> :)
[14:47:13] <francesca> people from remote: do you hear the people in the queue (like Suresh right now)?
[14:47:35] <Malisa Vucinic> yes
[14:47:36] <francesca> because I am in the back of the room and have a hard time hearing :(
[14:47:36] <Junred Orata> yes
[14:47:49] <francesca> ok good :)
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[14:51:53] <Thomas Watteyne> we hear perfectly
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[14:56:22] <Thomas Watteyne> OK!
[14:56:38] <Ines Rob> Malisa
[14:56:46] <Malisa Vucinic> can you make me presenter
[14:56:55] <Ines Rob> you have to be in the queue
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[14:57:05] <Thomas Watteyne> let me fix this with Malisa
[14:57:09] <Ines Rob> you are not in the queue Malisa
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[15:01:25] <In Robles_4894> Security Handshake slide
[15:01:29] <mcr> Thomas, I'm going to shorten the rekey discussion in favour of IPIP vs CoAP discussion.
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[15:01:55] <In Robles_4894> Mohit at mic
[15:02:10] <In Robles_4894> Join Process Overview slide
[15:02:10] <Thomas Watteyne> name please
[15:02:20] <In Robles_4894> Mohit Sethi at mic
[15:03:50] <In Robles_4894> Back to Security Handshake slide
[15:04:54] <In Robles_4894> Opeartion of Join PROXY
[15:05:07] <In Robles_4894> The slides are not updated in the Meetecho
[15:05:08] <In Robles_4894> now yes
[15:05:34] <Meetecho> Ines Robles_6914: slides should be up and running
[15:05:39] <Meetecho> they look fine in our monitor
[15:05:45] <In Robles_4894> ok yes thankx
[15:05:49] <Meetecho> (y)
[15:06:00] <Thomas Watteyne> slides work here (remote)
[15:06:09] <In Robles_4894> okis nice
[15:06:31] <mcr> Pascal points out that this process is very much like a DHCP relay ("option 82")
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[15:07:30] <In Robles_4894> Carsten at the mic
[15:08:51] <Thomas Watteyne> @Pascal, can I speak?
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[15:11:47] <francesca> (Thomas: when you have a second check the minutes to see if your comment was well captured there, thanks :) )
[15:11:54] <In Robles_4894> Nonce Generation at Pledge slide
[15:13:18] <In Robles_4894> Key Generation at Pledge
[15:13:37] <In Robles_4894> Mohit at mic
[15:13:56] <In Robles_4894> Nonce Generation at JRC Slide
[15:14:59] <In Robles_4894> Conclusion
[15:15:37] <In Robles_4894> Questions?
[15:15:55] <In Robles_4894> Diego at mic
[15:19:18] <In Robles_4894> Erik Nordmar at mic
[15:19:35] <In Robles_4894> Nordmark*
[15:19:40] <Malisa Vucinic> mic: why is PAN ID not enough?
[15:20:10] <In Robles_4894> ok
[15:20:57] <Thomas Watteyne> mic: please ask Pascal to give me the floor
[15:21:09] <In Robles_4894> ok
[15:21:15] <Malisa Vucinic> thanks
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[15:22:16] <Remy Leone> good now
[15:23:03] <In Robles_4894> Subir das at mic
[15:24:47] <In Robles_4894> Benjamin Damm
[15:24:48] <In Robles_4894> at mic
[15:25:00] <In Robles_4894> can you hear him?
[15:25:06] <Remy Leone> yes
[15:25:10] <In Robles_4894> ok thanks
[15:25:28] <In Robles_4894> Subir Das at mic
[15:26:23] <In Robles_4894> Questions?
[15:26:45] <In Robles_4894> raise hand adopting
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[15:27:29] <In Robles_4894> mailing list discussion
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[15:27:41] <In Robles_4894> Samita at mic
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[15:28:55] <In Robles_4894> Michael at mic
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[15:30:54] <In Robles_4894> Mohit at mic
[15:32:56] <In Robles_4894> Kerry Lynn at mic
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[15:34:53] <In Robles_4894> Thomas
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[15:39:22] <Ines Robles_9941> Diego and Charlie Perkins
[15:39:29] <Ines Robles_9941> willing to review this document
[15:40:29] <Ines Robles_9941> Diego at mic
[15:53:39] <Tengfei Chang> I have a comment on this
[15:53:48] <Tengfei Chang> What should I do?
[15:53:55] <Ines Robles_9941> put in quueeue
[15:54:02] <Ines Robles_9941> join the queue please
[15:54:22] <Tengfei Chang> I think I am in the queue already?
[15:54:31] <Ines Robles_9941> ok
[15:55:14] <Thomas Watteyne> we hear you
[15:55:45] <Thomas Watteyne> speak closer ot the mic
[15:55:47] <Ines Robles_9941> Tengefei please speak loud
[15:56:00] <Meetecho> Tengfei Chang only gave permission to access the microphone, that's why he's not sending video
[15:56:19] <Ines Robles_9941> Muhammad Majhal at mic
[15:57:41] <Tengfei Chang> For the PDR_THRESHOLD, each cell is provisioned by different SFs, so as long as the cell is related by the corresponse SF, which is running on one side. There is no issue for interoperability
[15:58:03] <Ines Robles_9941> ok
[15:58:06] <Ines Robles_9941> ok
[15:58:30] <Tengfei Chang> comment
[15:58:38] <Tengfei Chang> not a question
[15:59:04] <Thomas Watteyne> @tengfei, can you start a thread on the ML?
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[15:59:19] <Tengfei Chang> sure
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[15:59:36] <Meetecho> Tengfei Chang: if you're done can you leave the queue? or do you need to speak still?
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[16:00:04] <Meetecho> (hand icon)
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[16:01:12] <Malisa Vucinic> mic: there is a 6tsich simulator available on the bitbucket page that is convenient for simulating this sorts of algorithms. please take a look.
[16:01:28] <Malisa Vucinic> mic: related to the previous discussion on sf0 :)
[16:01:43] <Ines Robles_9487> Ok
[16:01:50] <Ines Robles_9487> I will tell it after Pascal
[16:02:04] <Malisa Vucinic> ok thanks, i tried to join the queue but tengfei is blocking :)
[16:02:19] <mcr> hmm? We see nobody in the queue...
[16:02:58] <Simon Pietro Romano> We cleared the queue from the remote control room...
[16:02:59] <Meetecho> Malisa Vucinic: you can always join the queue even when people are speaking
[16:03:04] <Meetecho> you just end up waiting
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[16:03:18] <Meetecho> until the mic is free
[16:03:33] <Tengfei Chang> sorry, thanks for removing me out!
[16:05:09] <Simon Pietro Romano> No prob ;-)
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[16:07:48] <Ines Robles_9487> Kerry Lynn at mic
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[16:08:22] <Malisa Vucinic> @Ines, I will join the queue during AOB to talk about the simulator, no need for previous comment to go online
[16:08:35] <Ines Robles_9487> ok great thank you :)
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[16:12:08] <Ines Robles_9487> Diego at mic
[16:12:48] <Ines Robles_9487> return to sit
[16:13:33] <Ines Robles_9487> Malisa
[16:13:42] <Ines Robles_9487> Tengefei we can not hear you
[16:13:52] <Tengfei Chang> @mic: we are conducting large-sacle experiments of 6P SF0 on the IoT-lab, with 100-nodes runnign openWSN. will contribute results to the group verifying the current of 6p and SF0 work.
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[16:15:36] <Ines Robles_9487> Pat at mic
[16:16:35] <Benjamin Damm> Malisa, we can see you
[16:16:41] <Benjamin Damm> :)
[16:16:46] <Malisa Vucinic> great :)
[16:18:08] <Meetecho> Malisa Vucinic: if you don't need to speak right now, it's easier if you just use the hand icon, as you're still holding the queue
[16:18:23] <Meetecho> *holding the floor
[16:18:34] <Meetecho> if you're planning on speaking soon again then nevermind
[16:18:51] <Malisa Vucinic> done thanks
[16:19:23] <Malisa Vucinic> it would be useful if there was a pop up saying leave the queue or something similar
[16:21:20] <Ines Robles_9487> Randy Turner
[16:21:25] <Ines Robles_9487> what is large scale
[16:21:36] <Ines Robles_9487> charlie answer thousend
[16:21:48] <Ines Robles_9487> thousand*
[16:25:10] <Ines Robles_9487> Muhammad at mic
[16:25:17] <Ines Robles_9487> Sajjad
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[16:26:23] <Ines Robles_9487> Bob
[16:26:26] <Ines Robles_9487> at mic
[16:29:31] <Ines Robles_9487> Samita at mic
[16:30:02] <Ines Robles_9487> Thank you very much
[16:30:11] <Malisa Vucinic> thank you
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