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[13:46:37] Thomas Watteyne has set the subject to: IETF92 6TiSCH WG meeting - Thursday session
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[14:01:17] <Thomas Watteyne> tets
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[14:01:27] <Maria Rita  Palattella> hello
[14:01:32] <Meetecho> Maria Rita  Palattella: can you unpublish instead of just muting your video until yout time comes?
[14:01:38] <Meetecho> otherwise remotes will see a black video
[14:01:46] <Maria Rita  Palattella> sure
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[14:02:37] <Maria Rita  Palattella> is it fine  now?
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[14:02:51] <Meetecho> you need to press the "don't pass" icon, looks like a "forbidden" sign next to your name
[14:03:11] <Maria Rita  Palattella> now it should be fine
[14:03:31] <Maria Rita  Palattella> how can I walk along the slides?
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[14:04:22] <Diego Dujovne> Hello. I'm in charge of jabber
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[14:05:26] <Meetecho> you get slides as a slide feed coming right from the beamer, so you can't control them
[14:05:31] <Meetecho> *video feed
[14:06:10] <Maria Rita  Palattella> i mean move from one to the other...
[14:06:32] <Diego Dujovne> http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/92/slides/slides-92-6tisch-2.pdf
[14:06:43] <Diego Dujovne> you can access the slides on that site
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[14:10:49] <Thomas Watteyne> remote participants: can you join Meetecho?
[14:11:15] <Thomas Watteyne> I have a hard time
[14:11:15] <meetecho audio> @Maria Rita while presenting, just say "next slide" and the chairs will change slide
[14:11:29] <Xavi Vilajosana> I am here
[14:11:31] <Diego Dujovne> slide 16
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[14:12:32] <Diego Dujovne> Rene Struik on the microphone
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[14:17:18] <Tom Phinney> I agree with René that the inclusion of this paragraph is premature, in that it FOREVER enables a relatively-insecure keying mechanism. While I do not agree completely with René's approach, many of his arguments are relevant here.
[14:18:00] <Diego Dujovne> Tom, I'm on the queue
[14:18:36] <Xavi Vilajosana> what should be done then?
[14:18:51] <Ted Lemon> Do we have a jabber relay?
[14:19:00] <Diego Dujovne> yes
[14:19:03] <Ted Lemon> Thanks!
[14:19:03] <Xavi Vilajosana> without requiring a complete key distribution architecture
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[14:19:15] <Tom Phinney> Distinguish between "minimal" and "that necessary for a plug-fest demonstration."
[14:20:35] <Diego Dujovne> Ted, I had to wait a little bit until Rene finished his words.
[14:20:49] <Ted Lemon> No criticism!   :)
[14:20:49] <Diego Dujovne> Sorry for the delay
[14:21:11] <Ted Lemon> The only reason I got up is that I think this is an important conversation to have.
[14:22:01] <Diego Dujovne> I agree.
[14:23:16] <Diego Dujovne> Yoshihiro Ohba on the microphone
[14:23:42] <Diego Dujovne> this discussion is about slide 14
[14:23:51] <Diego Dujovne> just to remind you
[14:24:42] <Diego Dujovne> Robert Cragie on the microphone
[14:26:08] <Diego Dujovne> Subir Das on the microphone
[14:26:29] <Xavi Vilajosana> I think an action item is to clarify the work well-known and more preferably remove it and use only pre-configured.
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[14:27:31] <Diego Dujovne> on the queue
[14:28:43] <Manuel Alba> HI world
[14:30:26] <Diego Dujovne> slide 17
[14:31:24] <Diego Dujovne> 18
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[14:32:32] <Thomas Watteyne> @MariaRita, are you ready for remote presentation?
[14:32:50] <Maria Rita  Palattella> i think so :)
[14:33:09] <Maria Rita  Palattella> you will have to walk  along the slides for me
[14:33:31] <Thomas Watteyne> yes, that's the idea, just say "next slide"
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[14:33:56] <Maria Rita  Palattella> ok
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[14:38:43] <Diego Dujovne> slide 19
[14:39:28] <Diego Dujovne> 20
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[14:41:07] <Diego Dujovne> 21
[14:42:48] <Diego Dujovne> slide 22 - Maria Rita's presentation
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[14:48:35] <Diego Dujovne> Ted Lemon on the microphone
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[14:51:02] <Diego Dujovne> slide 26
[14:51:22] <Diego Dujovne> 27
[14:51:43] <Diego Dujovne> 28
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[14:53:23] <Diego Dujovne> 30
[14:53:24] <Diego Dujovne> 31
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[14:55:02] <Diego Dujovne> 34
[14:57:13] <Diego Dujovne> Pat Kinney on the microphone
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[15:01:18] <Diego Dujovne> 35
[15:01:28] <Diego Dujovne> 36
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[15:03:13] <Diego Dujovne> 37
[15:03:22] <Diego Dujovne> back to 36
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[15:05:33] <Diego Dujovne> CoAP draft presented by Xavi Vilajosana
[15:06:03] <Diego Dujovne> 39
[15:06:16] <Diego Dujovne> 40
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[15:11:02] <Diego Dujovne> 48
[15:11:49] <Diego Dujovne> 49
[15:12:03] <Diego Dujovne> 50
[15:13:04] <Diego Dujovne> Samita on the microphone
[15:13:21] <Diego Dujovne> Samita Chakrabarti
[15:14:27] <Diego Dujovne> Thomas on the microphone
[15:16:34] <Diego Dujovne> Peter Van Der Stok on the microphone
[15:16:54] <Diego Dujovne> any questions from jabber?
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[15:24:19] <Diego Dujovne> Zhuo Chen was on the microphone
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[15:26:18] <Diego Dujovne> slide 51
[15:26:42] <Diego Dujovne> Miguel Angel Reina Ortega presenting
[15:27:18] <Diego Dujovne> 52
[15:27:19] <Diego Dujovne> 53
[15:27:47] <Diego Dujovne> 54
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[15:33:30] <Diego Dujovne> any questions?
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[15:34:54] <Meetecho> whoever moved the camera has our eternal gratitude :)
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[15:40:04] <Thomas Watteyne2> I'm taking over Jabber duties while Diego is presenting
[15:40:13] <Thomas Watteyne2> we're currently at slide 65
[15:41:22] <Thomas Watteyne2> 66
[15:42:44] <Thomas Watteyne2> 67
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[15:45:32] <Thomas Watteyne2> 70
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[15:50:00] <Thomas Watteyne2> 75
[15:54:55] <Maria Rita  Palattella> it was  fixed inthedraft
[15:55:05] <Maria Rita  Palattella> we clariefied we ask for soft cells
[15:55:14] <Maria Rita  Palattella> and when we ask for more than 1 cell
[15:55:25] <Maria Rita  Palattella> 6top translate the request  in asking for bundle
[15:55:35] <Maria Rita  Palattella> it was clarified OTF
[15:56:15] <Thomas Watteyne2> 77
[15:56:43] <Thomas Watteyne2> Pascal at the mic
[15:56:59] <Thomas Watteyne2> @Diego, can you take over Jabber duty?
[15:57:21] <Diego Dujovne> I will look again on the draft and specify where I think we are still implying control on bundles
[15:57:27] <Diego Dujovne> on the ML
[15:57:31] <Diego Dujovne> I take the jabber
[15:57:49] <Diego Dujovne> 78
[15:57:52] <Thomas Watteyne2> thanks, yes, a follow-up ML thread is the right way
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[16:10:07] <Diego Dujovne> we accept comments if you have any
[16:10:16] <Diego Dujovne> just jabber them
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[16:24:08] <Ted Lemon> The current rechartering discussion is brought to you by the letter 'e'.
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[16:25:09] <Ted Lemon> (This joke is fairly specific to U.S. culture, and more specifically to the public TV show "Sesame Street", so if you didn't get it that's probably why.)
[16:26:25] <Diego Dujovne> Sesame street was aired also in Latin America...
[16:29:59] <Diego Dujovne> any questions for Pat?
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[16:33:45] <Diego Dujovne> any one objects?
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[16:36:06] <Tom Phinney> An unqualified reference to a standard implies the edition listed in the normative references, which needs to specify either issue date (year) or edition. Any subclause references should be to that edition.
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[16:36:46] <Maria Rita  Palattella> thank you meetecho team
[16:36:49] <Maria Rita  Palattella> bye
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[16:41:55] <Diego Dujovne> thank you all for the participation
[16:41:58] <Diego Dujovne> good bye
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