- Tuesday, November 5, 2013

6tisch@jabber.ietf.org

Tuesday, November 5, 2013< ^ >

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[22:17:07] Thomas Watteyne has set the subject to: 6TiSCH: IPv6 over the TSCH mode of IEEE 802.15.4e
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[22:19:33] <mcharlesr> I am the jabber scribe.
[22:19:41] <mcharlesr> please mic: if you want it relayed.
[22:19:49] <mcharlesr> I guess we have no meetecho, so I will indicate slides.
[22:20:03] <Ole Troan> there is webex
[22:20:10] <Ole Troan> audio seems quite low
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[22:22:34] <mcharlesr> we are on slide Administrativa, slide 4.
[22:22:39] <ines> thanks
[22:22:54] <Ole Troan> no slides on webex (and audio clipping a bit)
[22:23:04] <mcharlesr> https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?ED=252267272&UID=0&PW=NN2MxYjMyYWQ1&RT=MiM0
[22:23:31] <mcharlesr> http://ietf88streaming.dnsalias.net/ietf/ietf882.m3u
[22:23:34] <mcharlesr> webex slides are coming.
[22:23:41] <Ted Lemon> Thomas, can you move the microphone away from your face a few inches?
[22:23:59] <mcharlesr> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/88/slides/slides-88-6tisch-1.pdf
[22:24:20] <mcharlesr> slide 6.
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[22:25:19] <mcharlesr> slide 8.
[22:25:42] <Thomas Watteyne> Ted, thanks, will do
[22:26:01] <mcharlesr> Ole is remote. Who else? Ines?
[22:26:07] <mcharlesr> slide 9.
[22:26:23] <ines> yes I am remote
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[22:27:50] <Ole Troan> if everyone sees the slides on webex I suppose you don't need to let us know about slide numbers.
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[22:28:09] <Pieter De Mil> also remote..
[22:28:48] <mcharlesr> slide 12
[22:29:08] <mcharlesr> slide 13.
[22:29:28] <mcharlesr> slide 14: Work Item 2
[22:30:38] <mcharlesr> slide 15: Work Item 3
[22:31:30] <mcharlesr> slide 16: draft-watteyne-6tisch-tsch-00
[22:31:35] <mcharlesr> questions from jabber?
[22:31:57] <mcharlesr> slide 17:
[22:32:47] <mcharlesr> slide 18: goals
[22:32:53] <mcharlesr> slide 19: timeslotted channel hopping
[22:34:21] <mcharlesr> slide 20: draft-thubert-6tischarchitecture-01
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[22:35:04] <mcharlesr> slide 21
[22:35:10] <mcharlesr> slidde 22
[22:35:28] <mcharlesr> slide 23: draft-wang-6tisch-6top-00
[22:36:52] <Ole Troan> microphone?
[22:37:04] <mcharlesr> slide 24
[22:37:17] <mcharlesr> better?
[22:37:32] <Ole Troan> now it is, thanks!
[22:37:53] <mcharlesr> slide 25: Commands
[22:39:09] <mcharlesr> slide 26: Using 6top with a PCE
[22:39:26] <mcharlesr> slide 27: Using 6top with a PCE
[22:39:38] <mcharlesr> slide 28: Using 6top with a PCE
[22:40:07] <mcharlesr> (hmm. copy and paste errors....) slide 28: Using 6top with a PCE
[22:40:20] <mcharlesr> slide 28: 6top Monitoring Process
[22:40:23] <mcharlesr> there, that's the one.
[22:40:40] <mcharlesr> slide 29: packets
[22:40:46] <mcharlesr> slide 30, slide 29 skipped.
[22:41:48] <mcharlesr> slide 31: issues to be addressed (2/3)
[22:41:58] <mcharlesr> okay, the slides in the PDF do not match.
[22:42:00] <mcharlesr> we are on 1/3.
[22:42:08] <mcharlesr> now 2/3, which is slide 31.
[22:43:26] <mcharlesr> slide 32: 3/3.
[22:44:36] <mcharlesr> slide 33: draft-sudhaakar-6tisch-coap-00
[22:44:50] <mcharlesr> questions from jabber.
[22:44:56] <mcharlesr> Carsten at mic.
[22:45:20] <mcharlesr> says it is a collection of verbs that modify the state.
[22:45:31] <mcharlesr> says it is better to do a data model that has nouns.
[22:47:07] <mcharlesr> slide 34.
[22:47:09] <mcharlesr> slide 35
[22:47:27] <mcharlesr> slide 36: Outline.
[22:47:29] <mcharlesr> is the mic okay?
[22:48:01] <ines> I am listening ok
[22:48:22] <Thomas Watteyne> ok, thanks
[22:48:48] <mcharlesr> slide 37: Introduction
[22:49:02] <mcharlesr> slide 38
[22:49:33] <mcharlesr> slide 39: Naming Convention for URI schemes
[22:50:04] <mcharlesr> slide 40:
[22:50:10] <mcharlesr> Convention for accessing URIs
[22:50:37] <mcharlesr> slide 41: Convention for accessing URIs
[22:51:33] <mcharlesr> slide 42: 6TiSCH Resources
[22:52:11] <mcharlesr> slide 43:
[22:52:42] <mcharlesr> slide 44: Message formats
[22:54:09] <mcharlesr> slide 45: 6TiSCH Resources
[22:54:32] <mcharlesr> slide 46: A sample of mapping between CoAP
methods and 6top commands
[22:55:36] <mcharlesr> at mic; Emmanuel ?
[22:56:46] <mcharlesr> slide 47: Example (1/3)
[22:56:58] <mcharlesr> at mic: same person.
[22:57:45] <mcharlesr> at mic: John Stewart
[22:59:18] <mcharlesr> at mic: Carsten.
[23:00:30] <mcharlesr> at mic: mehmet Ersue (netconf co-chair)
[23:01:49] <mcharlesr> slide 48: Example (2/3)
[23:01:51] <Pieter De Mil> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bierman-netconf-restconf-00
[23:02:36] <mcharlesr> slide 49: Example (3/3)
[23:02:39] <mcharlesr> slide 50: Example (3/3)
[23:02:53] <cabo> @Pieter: Better: draft-bierman-netconf-restconf-02.txt
[23:02:59] <mcharlesr> slide 51: Coverage gap analysis vs. charter
[23:03:03] <mcharlesr> remaining questions?
[23:03:17] <Pieter De Mil> indeed
[23:06:23] <mcharlesr> I was at the mic.
[23:06:38] <mcharlesr> at mic: mehmet Ersue
[23:07:11] <mcharlesr> slide 52: Drafts Organization
[23:10:11] <mcharlesr> slide 53:
[23:13:06] <mcharlesr> slide 54: draft-vilajosana-6tisch-minimal-00
[23:13:37] <mcharlesr> slide 55:
[23:13:54] <mcharlesr> slide 56: Charter
[23:14:39] <mcharlesr> slide 57: Objectives
[23:15:25] <mcharlesr> slide 58: Slotframe parameters
[23:16:40] <mcharlesr> slide 59: Slotframe representation
[23:17:12] <mcharlesr> slide 60: Time Slot timing
[23:17:44] <mcharlesr> slide 61: EB Content
[23:18:53] <mcharlesr> slide 62: Time Source Neighbour Selection
[23:19:56] <mcharlesr> slide 63: Neighbours
[23:20:05] <mcharlesr> sorry, too fast.
[23:20:08] <mcharlesr> still at 62
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[23:20:35] <mcharlesr> slide 63:
[23:21:16] <mcharlesr> slide 64: RPL on Minimal
[23:22:04] <mcharlesr> slide 65: RPL Configuration
[23:22:56] <mcharlesr> slide 66: Open Issues
[23:23:52] <mcharlesr> slide 67: OpenWSN.org
[23:24:11] <mcharlesr> slide 68: Call for draft adoption
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[23:26:23] <mcharlesr> slide 69:
[23:26:46] <mcharlesr> question: shall we adopt this document?
[23:26:57] <mcharlesr> looking for reasons not to do this.
[23:27:56] <mcharlesr> asking about draft-watteyne-6toisch
[23:28:00] <mcharlesr> now, architecture document.
[23:31:09] <mcharlesr> slide 70: draft-ohba-6tisch-security-00
[23:31:11] <mcharlesr> slide 71
[23:31:44] <Thomas Watteyne> can you confirm that the mic is OK?
[23:32:05] <Pieter De Mil> ok
[23:32:11] <ines> ok
[23:32:15] <mcharlesr> slide 72: Background and Objectives
[23:34:13] <mcharlesr> that was me at the mic.
[23:34:26] <mcharlesr> slide 73:
[23:36:01] <mcharlesr> slide 74:
[23:37:58] <mcharlesr> slide 75: Example Sequence
[23:39:01] <mcharlesr> slide 76: Phase 1- KMP
[23:39:22] <mcharlesr> slide 77: Phase-2 KMP Requirements
[23:39:24] <Thomas Watteyne> ok, thanks
[23:39:50] <mcharlesr> slide 78: Example Phase-2 KMP Operation (per-neighbor key model)
[23:41:05] <mcharlesr> slide 79: On-The-Fly Scheduling *
[23:42:47] <mcharlesr> slide 80: Problem: timeSlot Distributed Allocation is complex
[23:43:28] <mcharlesr> slide 81: Allocator
[23:45:48] <mcharlesr> slide 82: Problem: non-deterministic (VBR) traffic yields poor use of reserved resources
[23:47:13] <mcharlesr> slide 83
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[23:51:04] <mcharlesr> session is done.
[23:51:50] <Pieter De Mil> thx
[23:51:57] <ines> thank you for the information during the meeting
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