[16:56:35] igarashi joins the room [16:56:41] igarashi leaves the room [19:21:06] Hiroki joins the room [19:21:40] Hiroki leaves the room [19:27:11] Shaun Kaplan joins the room [19:28:14] Shaun Kaplan leaves the room [21:18:05] antonio.moreiras joins the room [21:18:30] antonio.moreiras leaves the room [22:11:14] a.petrescu joins the room [22:15:35] Shaun Kaplan joins the room [22:17:27] a.petrescu leaves the room [22:17:40] Alex Petrescu joins the room [22:24:41] Has the meeting started? (the audio sounds as no start yet). [22:28:08] antonio.moreiras joins the room [22:28:43] momose joins the room [22:28:58] Shaun Kaplan leaves the room [22:29:00] yuichi igarashi joins the room [22:29:37] sdhags joins the room [22:31:13] Shaun Kaplan joins the room [22:32:41] http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/09mar/slides/6lowpan-3.pdf [22:36:31] http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/09mar/slides/6lowpan-2.pdf [22:40:53] Pascal Thubert joins the room [22:41:11] Zach: I think we went ovreboard with mcast [22:41:33] why not focus on ff02::1 and ff02::2 and remove the rest [22:42:03] Hiroki joins the room [22:43:40] zach: not a bug issue but could make it simpler [22:44:12] Dave Cueller: likely that mcast will be much more widely used [22:44:54] so are you sure we're not going to use this [22:47:08] PAscal Thubert: the model we use today is a single subnet for the whole... if we have app talking to all nodes then we need mcast... [22:47:16] PT: we do the dad only on backbone. [22:47:31] PT: if any app then all it needs is that... ff01::2 doesn't reach all node. [22:47:41] PT: mcast goes a long way so it's good to compress it. [22:48:08] I said FF02::1 :) [22:57:04] PT: I like proposal, because doesn't cost any more bits. SEcond, open the door, but don't define options in this draft, there could be additional drafts. [23:00:06] ShoichiSakane joins the room [23:01:08] Shaun Kaplan leaves the room [23:01:32] JO Vasseur: are you deprecating 4944 [23:01:48] JP Vasseur we need to send the message around [23:03:03] Kris Pister: Don't freeze the spec because of ISA [23:03:11] ISA will change if IETF changes [23:03:25] Carsten: we'll change what's necessary [23:03:32] we'll be responsible about it [23:03:45] Shaun Kaplan joins the room [23:04:28] Shaun Kaplan leaves the room [23:04:53] Zach: there are slides at the end of the presentation for new comers [23:05:13] http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/09mar/slides/6lowpan-0.pdf [23:06:55] Shaun Kaplan joins the room [23:18:28] scicarus joins the room [23:28:05] Pascal Thubert leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [23:28:16] scicarus leaves the room [23:28:19] momose leaves the room [23:28:47] momose joins the room [23:29:10] behcet joins the room [23:31:41] Pascal Thubert joins the room [23:38:46] Zach: proposal to add a router preference that is not a routing distance for joining nodes [23:39:04] Cartsen: Make that an opaque as opposed to a hop count [23:39:27] Zach OK long as it's consistently used between RAs from various routersb [23:41:18] Richard: need to make clearer what's spec vs ND protocol for 6LoWPAN [23:41:43] JP: David will resurrect the architecture draft [23:41:55] Dave: confirm [23:43:48] JP Vasseur: use IPSO alliance to do interop test [23:44:15] carsten: not necessary short term but certainly useful [23:45:55] behcet leaves the room [23:53:15] antonio.moreiras leaves the room: Computer went to sleep [23:53:17] momose leaves the room [23:54:06] Pascal Thubert presents...(I jabber notes because he couldn't). [23:54:35] antonio.moreiras joins the room [23:54:49] slides are at http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/09mar/slides/6lowpan-1.ppt I believe